do you frown upon lightroom?

[Mully]

Show your work and lets see where you fit in.

 

[hrmnothnx]

Show your work and lets see where you fit in.

come to my gallery or buy me a scanner LOL im old school

 

[KmH]

i guess my argument here is defining the line betwen "photographer" and a "digital artist"

There is no line.

Do you know a digital camera image sensor cannot record color?

 

[12sndsgood]

i guess my argument here is defining the line betwen "photographer" and a "digital artist"

Why does it even matter? its a picture, admire it for what it is and don't get hung up on what the process was or the name you feel the need to label someone with.

 

[hrmnothnx]

i just find it funny that people embrace lightroom but if i posted my work and it was my instagram account i would get blown to bits in a discussion on if my work is professional

 

[pic_chick]

How is it not like a darkroom? Both are there to improve your work Lightroom just lets us work on the computer instead of in bins.
Looking down on someone for a tool they choose to use is wrong of you. Photography at its heart is art nothing less. Is a painting not a painting if the painter uses paper to paint with and not a brush? Did Ansal Adams create false advertisement His images where PP to give the great images we all know?

 

[rlemert]

No photograph ever represents "reality". The photographer has already manipulated what he's presenting through his choice of subject, composition, exposure settings, time of day, .... Programs like Lightroom simply give the photographer more tools with which to develop his image in the manner he sees fit.

The only times I would say you've moved into being a "graphics artist" is when you've made a concious decision to move beyond enhancing your picture to using it as a starting point for a different artistic impression - e.g. creating psychodelic backgrounds or things like that.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

i guess my argument here is defining the line betwen "photographer" and a "digital artist"

I am so with you! I totally judge people who don't use the shift key. It's totally like the line between oaf and intelligent.
Like, I won't even respond to someone who doesn't use the shift key. Sometimes I do feel sorry for them when I learn it's broken, and they can't afford a new one.

 

[terri]

i just find it funny that people embrace lightroom but if i posted my work and it was my instagram account i would get blown to bits in a discussion on if my work is professional

Well...is it instagram? You're being a mite presumptuous on attitudes here, for a newbie. You've not shared anything, just seem to be building a slow fire and watching the flames get higher. It's cool that you seem to support analog processing - so do I. But let us not cling to the notion that there is only ONE way to get to an image.

Here's a quote for you to ponder. You may have heard of the photographer who said it:

"There's no particular class of photograph that I think is any better than any other class. I'm always and forever looking for the image that has spirit! I don't give a damn how it got made."
-Minor White, Interviews With Master Photographers.

 

[hrmnothnx]

alas grammer insults... grasping at straws much?

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

alas grammer insults... grasping at straws much?

Why is it wrong to draw my imaginary line, but it's ok for you to?

You forgot the comma after 'alas'.

 

[Ilovemycam]

Am i the only one that frowns upon "photographers" who use lightroom for every image they send off to customers? i feel like at that point its less about using the camera and more about using a computer. not only that but it isnt really a photo any more, its a drawling. for example you take a landscape of a sunset for a beach hotel, then work it over in lightroom and they use it in in advertisement, and id argue its false advertising.

now im not against the artistic aspect of what you can do in lightroom. i just dont consider it photography, just liek i dont consider instagram art.

i realize you have to do what will please a customer to stay in business. But dont call yourself a photographer, your a graphic artist. am i right?

Hogwash...unless your short on time and work cheap and don't want to bother. Now, if you want to check with them for which one they like from 2 dozen poses - OK, send jpegs without LR if you wish.

Now, photoshopped assembled photos, while still photography are more of a offshoot. (maybe) But with LR - color correction, contrast, crop, dodge, burn and spot are the same things we always did in the wet darkroom.

 

[pixmedic]

Hmmm could it be... Where's Bitter he always remembers the ones who we lose

lol are you serious trying to argue that a dark room process is similar to a lightroom?

Why isn't it?

didnt know the dark room process came with algorithm based pre-sets and sliders

actually....dark room processes DO come with algorithm based pre-sets....
except they are called development times, chemical mixes, dodging, burning...but ALL have preset numbers you can start with, and then tweak to your own desires...just like photoshop or lightroom lets you do on your computer.
the execution of the post processing has changed. the concept has not.

 

[hrmnothnx]

i just find it funny that people embrace lightroom but if i posted my work and it was my instagram account i would get blown to bits in a discussion on if my work is professional

Well...is it instagram? You're being a mite presumptuous on attitudes here, for a newbie. You've not shared anything, just seem to be building a slow fire and watching the flames get higher. It's cool that you seem to support analog processing - so do I. But let us not cling to the notion that there is only ONE way to get to an image.

Here's a quote for you to ponder. You may have heard of the photographer who said it:

"There's no particular class of photograph that I think is any better than any other class. I'm always and forever looking for the image that has spirit! I don't give a damn how it got made."
-Minor White, Interviews With Master Photographers.

ha making a living the past 43 years taking pictures is far from newbie. however a newbie to the internet is accurate. and i will cling to the notion because when you ad in the digital process at some point they stop being photographs and start being digital art, am i right?

 

[flow]

Well, they're probably "digital art" as soon as you shot them with a digital camera, no matter what you do with them next. But prints would still be "analog art," then, I guess.