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Do you use umbrellas for for group photos during weddings?

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Do you use umbrellas for for group photos during weddings? Do you have a before (without the umbrella setup) and after (with umbrella) shot so we can see the difference?
 
I havent done many weddings, so take this with a grain of salt. I think for a group shot, you are better off doing it with on camera flash. You might put harsh shadow from person to person if you do off camera flash. I would limit off camera flash to 2 people, 3 may be pushing it. Or use 2 lights... but really.. do what you feel comfortable with. I know I wouldnt be comfortable setting up umbrella since I work alone. Plus there is a possibility of wind blowing it away.
 
Usually one light, off camera....but not too far off of the camera axis, because (as mentioned) it's harder to avoid shadows falling onto other people, when you're shooting a group.

I would use an umbrella, but most of the time I'm shooting outside and an umbrella on a light stand is basically a sail and would blow the stand & light over with a little wind.

We have been using a large diffusion panel though. When we can, we hold it up between the sun & the subject, but we also hold it between the flash and the subject. Since it takes one (or even two) people to hold the reflector, I guess that person could hold the stand with umbrella as well...but it's nice to have the flexibility of the panel.
 
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Usually one light, off camera....but not too far off of the camera axis, because (as mentioned) it's harder to avoid shadows falling onto other people, when you're shooting a group.

I would use an umbrella, but most of the time I'm shooting outside and an umbrella on a light stand is basically a sail and would blow the stand & light over with a little wind.

We have been using a large diffusion panel though. When we can, we hold it up between the sun & the subject, but we also hold it between the flash and the subject. Since it takes one (or even two) people to hold the reflector, I guess that person could hold the stand with umbrella as well...but it's nice to have the flexibility of the panel.

Yes, it makes sense!
 

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