DSLR for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

[Kbarredo]

No difference really the d5100 is the next model. It auto focuses on its own while in video while the d5000 is all manual focus. With your tight budget lens limitation is your last concern. There are still many great afs lenses. It just means that the lens contain the motor. In the future if you are so worried about less lenses you might as well fork out the 1000 for the d90. If you are a beginner the difference in lens availability won't really bother you so get that out of your head. specially with that small budget you won't be buying the whole afs collection soon. Worry about that when you get really good. By then you might even upgrade to the d700.
Another thing you're a beginner worrying about having a kit lens is like a teenager mad about not getting a ferrari for his first car. They are lower quality but they will get you what you need as a beginner.

I realize that everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but what you are saying just doesn't make any sense. The OP cannot take the kind of shots he wants to take with a kit lens and a consumer body without flash. It just can't be done. Period. The only hope he has of getting a lens anywhere near his budget that will sort of fit his needs is the $100 50mm 1.8 and you suggest he get a body that can't utilize it.

It's not even close to a teenager getting a ferrari for his first car. Getting a D5000 or 5100 would be like the teenager getting a hydrogen car and then figuring out he can't find any place to fill up.

Idid not read the whole post. With a 50mm lens that comes with it you don't really need a flash. Bjj isn't like basketball it isn't as fast pace so you don't need as high shutter. like I said all u need to do is make sure you take shots during slower paced times like guard transitions.

 

[Kerbouchard]

Kbarredo, you're still not making any sense, and now you went and started a thread about how you want to upgrade your D5000 to a D90. You should really stop 'helping' people until you know what the heck you are talking about.

 

[Kbarredo]

ok let me explain this. He wants to take pics of a bjj tournament without a flash but you guys say he needs a large aperture lens so that he can let as much light in. Im saying there is no need because bjj is not as fast paced as other sports therefore you can keep the shutterspeed a little lower and you can have a smaller aperture. What doesnt make sense, i cant simplify it anymore.

 

[SabrinaO]

Why are you bringing shutter speed in this? He doesn't want to use the flash, so he needs to open up his aperture. Aperture has nothing to do with motion. You are the one thats not making sense.

 

[Kbarredo]

Why are you bringing shutter speed in this? He doesn't want to use the flash, so he needs to open up his aperture. Aperture has nothing to do with motion. You are the one thats not making sense.

Ok he needs a bigger aperture so that he can speed up his shutter to freeze the action. Im saying he doesnt need a 1.8 aperture because bjj is not that fast paced. He can keep his shutter speed lower and still freeze the action thus letting more light in, allowing him to keep his aperture at 4-5.6. Do i need to explain the shutter, iso and aperture triangle as well.

 

[table1349]

The first one was at 1/160th of a second. Notice the motion blur in the hand. http://www.judojournal.com/pictures/heavy.JPG

This could have been a nice shot with a decent shutter speed. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VotiGP6jOY4/SwbZkypqpOI/AAAAAAAAAhM/YwGa-6h185Q/s1600/throw2.jpg

Action sports are action sports. Shutter speed matters to capture Action.

 

[SabrinaO]

Why are you bringing shutter speed in this? He doesn't want to use the flash, so he needs to open up his aperture. Aperture has nothing to do with motion. You are the one thats not making sense.

Ok he needs a bigger aperture so that he can speed up his shutter to freeze the action. Im saying he doesnt need a 1.8 aperture because bjj is not that fast paced. He can keep his shutter speed lower and still freeze the action thus letting more light in, allowing him to keep his aperture at 4-5.6. Do i need to explain the shutter, iso and aperture triangle as well.

HOW IS HE LETTING GOOD LIGHT IN AT AN APERTURE OF 4-5.6????????? And a low shutter will blur the action. You don't need to explain the exposure triangle to me... you need to read it for yourself. How long have you been at this? WOW.

 

[Kbarredo]

The first one was at 1/160th of a second. Notice the motion blur in the hand. http://www.judojournal.com/pictures/heavy.JPG

This could have been a nice shot with a decent shutter speed. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VotiGP6jOY4/SwbZkypqpOI/AAAAAAAAAhM/YwGa-6h185Q/s1600/throw2.jpg

Action sports are action sports. Shutter speed matters to capture Action.

Thats during a throw though and its judo not bjj. 2 very different martial arts. Thats why i was telling op to shoot during slow moments like in the gaurd.

 

[Kbarredo]

K well then tell me in a bjj tournament with multiple spot lights on each mat how much shutterspeed is needed. You mind telling me because I would really love to hear about something you have never experienced in your life.

 

[table1349]

The first one was at 1/160th of a second. Notice the motion blur in the hand. http://www.judojournal.com/pictures/heavy.JPG

This could have been a nice shot with a decent shutter speed. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VotiGP6jOY4/SwbZkypqpOI/AAAAAAAAAhM/YwGa-6h185Q/s1600/throw2.jpg

Action sports are action sports. Shutter speed matters to capture Action.

Thats during a throw though and its judo not bjj. 2 very different martial arts. Thats why i was telling op to shoot during slow moments like in the gaurd.

Good sports photographers know their sport.

Ronin Jiu-Jitsu: Motivation

 

[SabrinaO]

The first one was at 1/160th of a second. Notice the motion blur in the hand. http://www.judojournal.com/pictures/heavy.JPG

This could have been a nice shot with a decent shutter speed. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VotiGP6jOY4/SwbZkypqpOI/AAAAAAAAAhM/YwGa-6h185Q/s1600/throw2.jpg

Action sports are action sports. Shutter speed matters to capture Action.

Thats during a throw though and its judo not bjj. 2 very different martial arts. Thats why i was telling op to shoot during slow moments like in the gaurd.

So you are saying he should limit himself to get certain "slow shots" instead of doing the obvious to capture ALL the shots when opening up his aperture and increasing the shutter speed?? Just wow.

 

[Kerbouchard]

So your advice is to basically not take any photos while anything is happening. That is an interesting strategy for sports photography. :Rolleyes:

 

[Kbarredo]

The first one was at 1/160th of a second. Notice the motion blur in the hand. http://www.judojournal.com/pictures/heavy.JPG

This could have been a nice shot with a decent shutter speed. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VotiGP6jOY4/SwbZkypqpOI/AAAAAAAAAhM/YwGa-6h185Q/s1600/throw2.jpg

Action sports are action sports. Shutter speed matters to capture Action.

Thats during a throw though and its judo not bjj. 2 very different martial arts. Thats why i was telling op to shoot during slow moments like in the gaurd.

Good sports photographers know their sport.

Ronin Jiu-Jitsu: Motivation

It says on the site you posted itself JUDO. So excuse me for using the website you posted as a reference.

 

[Ballistics]

Thats during a throw though and its judo not bjj. 2 very different martial arts. Thats why i was telling op to shoot during slow moments like in the gaurd.

Just to interject for a moment; Judo and Jiu Jitsu are actually very similar. All of the throwing take downs in BJJ is in fact Judo. BJJ was developed by a Judo black belt. But I am actually learning a lot from your exchange though, so you guys should definitely keep going lol.

 

[Kbarredo]

Thats during a throw though and its judo not bjj. 2 very different martial arts. Thats why i was telling op to shoot during slow moments like in the gaurd.

Just to interject for a moment; Judo and Jiu Jitsu are actually very similar. All of the throwing take downs in BJJ is in fact Judo. BJJ was developed by a Judo black belt. But I am actually learning a lot from your exchange though, so you guys should definitely keep going lol.

No they are not similar at all. 70% of judo is standing ending with one main takedown and they are stood back up after a few seconds on the ground. Bjj a large majority of the style is on the ground fighting. Judo is mostly on throwing bjj is mostly on the ground fighting. Bjj shows hows to fight off their back. Judo not so much, you are taught more to stay on top.