DSLR for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

[table1349]

Thats during a throw though and its judo not bjj. 2 very different martial arts. Thats why i was telling op to shoot during slow moments like in the gaurd.

Good sports photographers know their sport.

Ronin Jiu-Jitsu: Motivation

It says on the site you posted itself JUDO. So excuse me for using the website you posted as a reference.

Yeah you are right. There is no fast action here.
YouTube - ‪The only Marcelo Garcia video that matters‬‏
YouTube - ‪Shinya Aoki vs Marcelo Garcia‬‏

Let's see, who do I believe shows this the best. Marcelo Garcia, 4 time Brazilian jiu-jitsu Champion or you?
Brazilian jiu-jitsu is a fast paced sport. No different than any other action sport.

 

[Ballistics]

Thats during a throw though and its judo not bjj. 2 very different martial arts. Thats why i was telling op to shoot during slow moments like in the gaurd.

Just to interject for a moment; Judo and Jiu Jitsu are actually very similar. All of the throwing take downs in BJJ is in fact Judo. BJJ was developed by a Judo black belt. But I am actually learning a lot from your exchange though, so you guys should definitely keep going lol.

No they are not similar at all. 70% of judo is standing ending with one main takedown and they are stood back up after a few seconds on the ground. Bjj a large majority of the style is on the ground fighting. Judo is mostly on throwing bjj is mostly on the ground fighting.

They are similar, there is more than 1 type of competitive Judo. And there is also combat judo, how are you going to argue about it with me? Guard, Submissions, Throws, are all apart of BJJ all came from Judo. I train judo just as I train BJJ. Gi chokes, joint locks, transitional techniques are all apart of judo. Just because they only throw in the olympics doesnt make Judo just throws.

 

[Ballistics]

The art began with Mitsuyo Maeda (aka Conde Koma, or Count Coma in English), a member of the then-recently-founded Kodokan. Maeda was one of five of Judo's top groundwork experts that Judo's founder Kano Jigoro sent overseas to demonstrate and spread his art to the world. Maeda left Japan in 1904 and visited a number of countries[SUP][2][/SUP] giving "jiu-do" demonstrations and accepting challenges from wrestlers,boxers, savate fighters and various other martial artists before eventually arriving in Brazil on November 14, 1914.

They are not the same, however they are very very very similar. The basics of Judo's ground work is the basis of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
The most common position that I use on the ground to transition from side control is called Judo position.

 

[Kbarredo]

Just to interject for a moment; Judo and Jiu Jitsu are actually very similar. All of the throwing take downs in BJJ is in fact Judo. BJJ was developed by a Judo black belt. But I am actually learning a lot from your exchange though, so you guys should definitely keep going lol.

No they are not similar at all. 70% of judo is standing ending with one main takedown and they are stood back up after a few seconds on the ground. Bjj a large majority of the style is on the ground fighting. Judo is mostly on throwing bjj is mostly on the ground fighting.

They are similar, there is more than 1 type of competitive Judo. And there is also combat judo, how are you going to argue about it with me? Guard, Submissions, Throws, are all apart of BJJ all came from Judo. I train judo just as I train BJJ. Gi chokes, joint locks, transitional techniques are all apart of judo. Just because they only throw in the olympics doesnt make Judo just throws.

Well I apologize because the only judo I took was throw based and you only have a few seconds to keep action going on the ground. But a person that is pulling off an ankle breaker in basketball is much faster than any bjj move on the ground.

 

[Ballistics]

No they are not similar at all. 70% of judo is standing ending with one main takedown and they are stood back up after a few seconds on the ground. Bjj a large majority of the style is on the ground fighting. Judo is mostly on throwing bjj is mostly on the ground fighting.

They are similar, there is more than 1 type of competitive Judo. And there is also combat judo, how are you going to argue about it with me? Guard, Submissions, Throws, are all apart of BJJ all came from Judo. I train judo just as I train BJJ. Gi chokes, joint locks, transitional techniques are all apart of judo. Just because they only throw in the olympics doesnt make Judo just throws.

Well I apologize because the only judo I took was throw based and you only have a few seconds to keep action going on the ground. But a person that is pulling off an ankle breaker in basketball is much faster than any bjj move on the ground.

I'm not disagreeing with this, I wouldn't call BJJ fast paced as a whole. Once you hit the ground time slows down. But standing, BJJ is very very fast. Basketball is a faster paced sport, but the action is fast all the same. The 10-15 seconds of action is just as fast as BBall.

 

[Kbarredo]

They are similar, there is more than 1 type of competitive Judo. And there is also combat judo, how are you going to argue about it with me? Guard, Submissions, Throws, are all apart of BJJ all came from Judo. I train judo just as I train BJJ. Gi chokes, joint locks, transitional techniques are all apart of judo. Just because they only throw in the olympics doesnt make Judo just throws.

Well I apologize because the only judo I took was throw based and you only have a few seconds to keep action going on the ground. But a person that is pulling off an ankle breaker in basketball is much faster than any bjj move on the ground.

I'm not disagreeing with this, I wouldn't call BJJ fast paced as a whole. Once you hit the ground time slows down. But standing, BJJ is very very fast. Basketball is a faster paced sport, but the action is fast all the same. The 10-15 seconds of action is just as fast as BBall.

But wasnt i saying the d5000 with a kit lens is ok if you stay with shooting down times. I never said take shots during fast paced times. Everyone is making it out like I said you can take anything with the d5000. Just stay within your limits with your budget.

 

[Kerbouchard]

I shot a wedding last night. There were spot lights on the bride and groom. It was actually a pretty decently lit church as things go. I was at ISO 2000, aperture 2.8, with a shutter speed of around 1/15th of a second. Luckily, I had my tripod with me and took shots at peak action, like the kiss, lighting of the unity candles, etc. But any photo taken when people were walking is a blur.

My point is, indoor, no-flash photography is not kit lens territory, regardless of how relatively slow the action is. Yes, there are some venues that are brighter than others. Yes, there are some moments where there are temporary pauses and a slow shutter speed can work. All of that is besides the point. Just because occasionally you can get a good shot with certain equipment does not mean it is the right equipment for the job.

 

[Kbarredo]

I shot a wedding last night. There were spot lights on the bride and groom. It was actually a pretty decently lit church as things go. I was at ISO 2000, aperture 2.8, with a shutter speed of around 1/15th of a second. Luckily, I had my tripod with me and took shots at peak action, like the kiss, lighting of the unity candles, etc. But any photo taken when people were walking is a blur.

My point is, indoor, no-flash photography is not kit lens territory, regardless of how relatively slow the action is. Yes, there are some venues that are brighter than others. Yes, there are some moments where there are temporary pauses and a slow shutter speed can work. All of that is besides the point. Just because occasionally you can get a good shot with certain equipment does not mean it is the right equipment for the job.

Im just trying to stay within his budget

 

[Ballistics]

What lens would be good for what I am looking for? I am going to pick up a 50mm 1.8D for portraits and DOF pictures, but what about action shots? I am going to buy used.

 

[Kerbouchard]

I shot a wedding last night. There were spot lights on the bride and groom. It was actually a pretty decently lit church as things go. I was at ISO 2000, aperture 2.8, with a shutter speed of around 1/15th of a second. Luckily, I had my tripod with me and took shots at peak action, like the kiss, lighting of the unity candles, etc. But any photo taken when people were walking is a blur.

My point is, indoor, no-flash photography is not kit lens territory, regardless of how relatively slow the action is. Yes, there are some venues that are brighter than others. Yes, there are some moments where there are temporary pauses and a slow shutter speed can work. All of that is besides the point. Just because occasionally you can get a good shot with certain equipment does not mean it is the right equipment for the job.

Im just trying to stay within his budget

I would like to take photos of Saturn. It is important that I get great clarity in the rings. My budget is $250. Got any advice?

Sometimes the best answer is to tell somebody that, either:

a)their expectations are unrealistic or
b)their budget is unrealistic

Telling me to go out and buy a Vivitar 800mm f/8 mirror lens just because that is in my budget doesn't make it good advice.

 

[Kerbouchard]

What lens would be good for what I am looking for? I am going to pick up a 50mm 1.8D for portraits and DOF pictures, but what about action shots? I am going to buy used.

The 50mm 1.8 is still your best option anywhere near your budget range, but unfortunately, you will not have autofocus, which makes sports photography much more difficult, especially with the small viewfinder in the D5000/5100 series.

Better would be an 85mm 1.8 or you might look at the 35mm 1.8 since you can get relatively close to the action. The 35mm 1.8 will autofocus on your camera, but it costs about twice as much as the 50mm 1.8.

 

[SabrinaO]

How would the 35mm be? It has AF since his body doesn't have it.

 

[SabrinaO]

What lens would be good for what I am looking for? I am going to pick up a 50mm 1.8D for portraits and DOF pictures, but what about action shots? I am going to buy used.

The 50mm 1.8 is still your best option anywhere near your budget range, but unfortunately, you will not have autofocus, which makes sports photography much more difficult, especially with the small viewfinder in the D5000/5100 series.

Better would be an 85mm 1.8 or you might look at the 35mm 1.8 since you can get relatively close to the action. The 35mm 1.8 will autofocus on your camera, but it costs about twice as much as the 50mm 1.8.

hahah.. i didn't see this

 

[table1349]

Well I apologize because the only judo I took was throw based and you only have a few seconds to keep action going on the ground. But a person that is pulling off an ankle breaker in basketball is much faster than any bjj move on the ground.

I'm not disagreeing with this, I wouldn't call BJJ fast paced as a whole. Once you hit the ground time slows down. But standing, BJJ is very very fast. Basketball is a faster paced sport, but the action is fast all the same. The 10-15 seconds of action is just as fast as BBall.

But wasnt i saying the d5000 with a kit lens is ok if you stay with shooting down times. I never said take shots during fast paced times. Everyone is making it out like I said you can take anything with the d5000. Just stay within your limits with your budget.

Wow, I will have to remember that next time I am at Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, Boone Pickens Stadium, Texas Memorial Stadium on the sidelines shooting football, or Allen Field House shooting basketball or a Boxing or MMA event ringside to shoot. Don't go for the fast pace stuff, just get the standing, sitting, laying shots. Those will really sell big.:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 

[dallasimagery]

You don't need a super AF system for BJJ - most of the time it's in one area. I shot BJJ and MMA for a couple of years several years ago before I realized I didn't like shooting sports,a nd took some awesome shots with the 50/1.4 and a 20d.