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[ScottS]

Yeah I have one or two rolling around in there somewhere.. They come out every once and a while.. lol

Yup believe it or not I sometimes post pictures!

Ok I will not Hijack this thread... I'm done posting.

 

[Battou]

I agree, look at how many teenagers we have on the site, who are as addicted and involved with photography as we are.


I guess one thing you could do, like one of the other forums that I am on, is make a section that is strictly 18 and up, and you have to ask to be a member to that section. That way the mods can see the age of the person who is making the request and grant or deny the request.
That way we don't have nude photography on the open forum but those who want to discuss it can, without worrying about younger eyes.
Just a thought.

Keep in mind, I asked for the thoughts and Ideas so I could develop Ideas on how to please everyone to employ on a site not related to TPF in anyway other than the base intrest of Photography. The bulk of this is not necessarily forum related but gallery related.

We would first need a relyable age varfication system.

I have actually thought about that and will employ it in the event it becomes necessary, The section would be easy enough to accomplish. We have filtering systems in place that will either block an image with a warning thumbnail or hide it from view completely pending the users preference, However there is no way of stopping individual users from setting their preferences to view the material on their own (kinda sorta a given). My original idea was to apply one of the filters to the category itself but that is apparently impossible to code..........

*false edit*
Wile typing that I got me an idea that may work. Perhaps the line lies in a group desition.

On the sibling sites there are public forum for abuse (suspected copyright violations and whatnot) Perhaps I could modify this practice for suspicion of porn.

For example say you are browsing with your filters off and come across something you would consider porn. You go over the the sites forum and place the report and then the staff put it up to a panel of several viewers and get the general concencus of a group. If the image is deemed porn by the majority it is delt with accordingly and if the majority find it to hold artistic merit it is left alone.

Trial by jury of peers so to speak, in theroy this process could stand in a court as valid effort to not permit pornography/explicit adult material and maintain the interest of artists in the event an affiliate decides to claim we are in violation of terms, I think.

 

[monkeykoder]

theringlord.org/forum/ just counts the age you put on your profile and requires you to e-mail an administrator.

 

[Big Bully]

Keep in mind, I asked for the thoughts and Ideas so I could develop Ideas on how to please everyone to employ on a site not related to TPF in anyway other than the base intrest of Photography. The bulk of this is not necessarily forum related but gallery related.

We would first need a relyable age varfication system.

I have actually thought about that and will employ it in the event it becomes necessary, The section would be easy enough to accomplish. We have filtering systems in place that will either block an image with a warning thumbnail or hide it from view completely pending the users preference, However there is no way of stopping individual users from setting their preferences to view the material on their own (kinda sorta a given). My original idea was to apply one of the filters to the category itself but that is apparently impossible to code..........

*false edit*
Wile typing that I got me an idea that may work. Perhaps the line lies in a group desition.

On the sibling sites there are public forum for abuse (suspected copyright violations and whatnot) Perhaps I could modify this practice for suspicion of porn.

For example say you are browsing with your filters off and come across something you would consider porn. You go over the the sites forum and place the report and then the staff put it up to a panel of several viewers and get the general concencus of a group. If the image is deemed porn by the majority it is delt with accordingly and if the majority find it to hold artistic merit it is left alone.

Trial by jury of peers so to speak, in theroy this process could stand in a court as valid effort to not permit pornography/explicit adult material and maintain the interest of artists in the event an affiliate decides to claim we are in violation of terms, I think.

That is a really good idea, trial by jury, I mean geez that is how the courts work. But you have to have rules like if you have a 50-50 split (hung jury) or close calls with the jury. Like saying if the jury of peers have a 50-50 split then it gets booted as porn, or something to that effect. Or maybe you should ask your sponsors what they consider to be pornographic. That might help you with some sort of guidelines.

 

[Big Bully]

theringlord.org/forum/ just counts the age you put on your profile and requires you to e-mail an administrator.

That is how idahoturbodiesels.com works too.. They go by the age you put in your profile, and if you aren't old enough to view the "backroom" then said person is SOL, and does not get admittance.

 

[Battou]

That is a really good idea, trial by jury, I mean geez that is how the courts work. But you have to have rules like if you have a 50-50 split (hung jury) or close calls with the jury. Like saying if the jury of peers have a 50-50 split then it gets booted as porn, or something to that effect.

I would take an uneven panel approach to prevent the 50/50 split and act on one vote the the majority side.

Or maybe you should ask your sponsors what they consider to be pornographic. That might help you with some sort of guidelines.

This has not eluded us, however I prefer to have a backup plan on our end set by those who actually have an interest in the field just incase. With this material the bar is gonna get pushed no matter what we do. The better we cover our asses the better we will be in the long run.

 

[Big Bully]

I would take an uneven panel approach to prevent the 50/50 split and act on one vote the the majority side.



This has not eluded us, however I prefer to have a backup plan on our end set by those who actually have an interest in the field just incase. With this material the bar is gonna get pushed no matter what we do. The better we cover our asses the better we will be in the long run.

Good idea, its always better to have a few back up plans. There are always going to be those people who toe the line, and try to push it.

 

[jstuedle]

JMO, but the site has been fine the way it is. You want to see that stuff, there are plenty of other forums. We don't need it here, this is a great general forum. As has been mentioned, art is in the eye of the viewer. With the general membership here, why not leave this forum at least PG-13?

 

[Big Bully]

JMO, but the site has been fine the way it is. You want to see that stuff, there are plenty of other forums. We don't need it here, this is a great general forum. As has been mentioned, art is in the eye of the viewer. With the general membership here, why not leave this forum at least PG-13?

Battou is talking about a different forum, not this one and has said that more than once. He isn't trying to change this forum.

 

[jstuedle]

Sorry, this thread has so many posts, I haven't kept track of the twists and turns. I apologize for being slightly ignorant. My bad.

 

[Big Bully]

Sorry, this thread has so many posts, I haven't kept track of the twists and turns. I apologize for being slightly ignorant. My bad.

It's alright, I got confused too awhile back. Everyone is allowed to have a bad every now and again.. This was just yours.. lol
It's all good!

 

[Joves]

Well as far as regulating content I would use the posters as, being the ones that set the bar. They could vote on what was going too far. It may get some angry in both directions but, would be the safest of all. Most age verification is a pain in the @ss to tell the truth. They usually require a credit card for that purpose. Unless you make a general forum then make a subscription part for say $25 for life time. That should keep the kiddies out.

 

[Battou]

JMO, but the site has been fine the way it is. You want to see that stuff, there are plenty of other forums. We don't need it here, this is a great general forum. As has been mentioned, art is in the eye of the viewer. With the general membership here, why not leave this forum at least PG-13?

Battou is talking about a different forum, not this one and has said that more than once. He isn't trying to change this forum.

Well It started as a means of gathering the general consus of TPF thoughts on the difference between porn and nudes and kinda evolved into this as my intentions for my use of the information grew clearer.

Sorry, this thread has so many posts, I haven't kept track of the twists and turns. I apologize for being slightly ignorant. My bad.

Not a problem, you are not the first.

Hell the copy of this thread I have posted on other sites either faild or got deleted. Periodic misunderstandings are not a big catastrophy.

As a matter of fact one of the copies got deleted despite the mod of the particular site who deleted it having a crysal clear understanding....now that aggrivated me a little.

Hi there,

Your thread encouraging people to discuss a topic that is not G rated was removed. Please review our Terms of Use.
{link to Tearms of use}

So far this is the only one that hasn't collapsed totally

 

[WildSpirit]

Hi,

I have this exact dilema - I am a female photographer, and my main business lies with erotic photography.

I have had more than 100 shoots, and only one of them would I consider "porn" ( it was a couples shoot and they requested more intimate pictures)

Most women come to me wanting to feel beautiful, sensual and mysterious. Not one woman has ever asked me to make her look like a porn star.

I do take photgraphs including genitalia ( mostly male) but I just consider it nude, not porn?

I find the naked body amazing and beautiful. It is interesting to light and fun to do.

One thing I find restricting is the inability to go outdoors as often as I would like ( due to client shiness or nudity laws)

I think that the difference in porn verses art is technique, lighting, and the goal behind the photo. I want you drawn to the photo, not instantly turned on by it.

In any case, it is VERY hard to share you work for CC on the net without coming across as some kind of pervert. I'd LOVE a forum for nude/erotic photography, but I am afraid of the weirdo's it would also attract.

I like conversing with intelligent professional photographers with a great eye for art, not some old lonely man getting his jollies from my photos



Ainslie

 

[Big Bully]

As a matter of fact one of the copies got deleted despite the mod of the particular site who deleted it having a crysal clear understanding....now that aggrivated me a little.



So far this is the only one that hasn't collapsed totally

I find it sad that there are some people out there that think we need to live in a G-rated world... How boring would that be?!