General help with possible new purchase

[jcleaver42]

I am seriously considering switching to a mirror-less system, thinking right now of the Nikon Z 7ii. My current cameras are the D750 and a D7100. Although I would love to get the Z 8, it is more expensive than I can justify. I am trying to decide mainly on whether to start slow and just get the FTZ II adapter and just use the lens I already have (Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2, Nikkor 28-300 VR, Tamron 18-400 VC, Tamron 28-75 2.8, Tamron 10-24, Nikkor 18-55) I realize that some of these may not fully work with the adaptor, but that is OK. My other choice is to buy the Z 7ii with the Z 24-200 and a FTZ adapter.

Eventually I would like to get to the point of using native lenses, but I am not rich, yet.

Since I have the coverage already for the 28-200 range, is it worth getting the native Z 24-200 lens? Also, I hear rumors of a newer Z 7iii, which has not been announced yet. I am wondering whether to wait for the announcement, though the 7ii would work for me. I thought about the 6iii, but I like the idea of a 45 MP sensor.

Any thoughts?

 

[greybeard]

You will not only be switching from a dSLR to a mirrorless but from a 20-24 mp medium res sensor to a high res 46 mp sensor. You will need to go with Nikkor S series Z lenses to reap the benefits of the added resolution. Given the lenses you currently have, I doubt if you will see much if any improvement in IQ over the D750. Give the Z6iii a look. Same resolution as what you have with all the improvements of the iii series over the ii series. (jmho)

 

[Golem]

You will not only be switching from a dSLR to a mirrorless but from a 20-24 mp medium res sensor to a high res 46 mp sensor. You will need to go with Nikkor S series Z lenses to reap the benefits of the added resolution. Given the lenses you currently have, I doubt if you will see much if any improvement in IQ over the D750. Give the Z6iii a look. Same resolution as what you have with all the improvements of the iii series over the ii series. (jmho)

Resolution has only a cery minor effect on IQ. It really doesnt matter at all whether one updates the lenses.

 

[greybeard]

Resolution has only a cery minor effect on IQ. It really doesnt matter at all whether one updates the lenses.

Really? That has not been my experience. The main reason I use a high resolution D850 is the ability to crop more when I need to. I can see a huge difference in pictures shot with my 50mm f/1.8 vs 24-120 f/4 and it is a gold rim lens. It really depends on why one chooses to go with a high resolution sensor in the 1st place. If one doesn't crop a lot or print huge enlargements a 45mp vs 24mp sensor only wastes a lot of disk space. But, if you like to do deep crops like me and once in a while I will have really enlargement made then a high mp sensor and a sharp lens makes all the difference in the world.

 

[RAZKY]

Really? That has not been my experience.

It hasn't been anyone else's experience, either - it's the reason Nikon listed a limited number of lenses recommended for use on the D850 when it was released.

 

[petrochemist]

It hasn't been anyone else's experience, either - it's the reason Nikon listed a limited number of lenses recommended for use on the D850 when it was released.

Actually @Golem 's experience has been mine as well. Yes sometimes higher resolution will win out clearly, but in most shooting it's the composition that wins over the sharpness. Especially if just sharing over the internet where ~1000 pixel wide is often best.

I've yet to get any lenses designed for higher resolution e-mount cameras & will quite happily use loads of film era glass (but not the film era kit zooms).

There have been times when available focal lengths have meant I needed to crop heavily & in this situation poor glass definitely shows up

 

[petrochemist]

I am seriously considering switching to a mirror-less system, thinking right now of the Nikon Z 7ii. My current cameras are the D750 and a D7100. Although I would love to get the Z 8, it is more expensive than I can justify. I am trying to decide mainly on whether to start slow and just get the FTZ II adapter and just use the lens I already have (Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2, Nikkor 28-300 VR, Tamron 18-400 VC, Tamron 28-75 2.8, Tamron 10-24, Nikkor 18-55) I realize that some of these may not fully work with the adaptor, but that is OK. My other choice is to buy the Z 7ii with the Z 24-200 and a FTZ adapter.

Eventually I would like to get to the point of using native lenses, but I am not rich, yet.

Since I have the coverage already for the 28-200 range, is it worth getting the native Z 24-200 lens? Also, I hear rumors of a newer Z 7iii, which has not been announced yet. I am wondering whether to wait for the announcement, though the 7ii would work for me. I thought about the 6iii, but I like the idea of a 45 MP sensor.

Any thoughts?

I would go with the adapter (as I have on each of the mirrorless systems I've added to my hoard so far).
The adapter should mean you can use all 6 of your lenses to some extent. You can then upgrade in a more gradual fashion & concentrate on lenses that are most disappointing (to you) via the adapter - this will be a mix of it's capabilities, how & how much YOU use that lens.

If money were no object then perhaps you'd replace the whole lot in one swoop, but the world I live in isn't like that. Even fairly big business is generally looking to save money where possible.

 

[RAZKY]

Actually @Golem 's experience has been mine as well. Yes sometimes higher resolution will win out clearly, but in most shooting it's the composition that wins over the sharpness. Especially if just sharing over the internet where ~1000 pixel wide is often best.

I've yet to get any lenses designed for higher resolution e-mount cameras & will quite happily use loads of film era glass (but not the film era kit zooms).

There have been times when available focal lengths have meant I needed to crop heavily & in this situation poor glass definitely shows up

Sure you won't see much, if any, difference when posting online. My experience is that Nikon posted their recommended lenses for use on the D850 for a very good reason. And Adox recommends high-quality lenses to get the most out of their CMS 20 II (near grainless) film. When the best IQ is desired, the better lenses will win every time.

 

[RVT1K]

I've been contemplating going mirrorless for a while now to replace my D3 and D4.

I really like the high frame rates a mirrorless and the IBS.

But the notion of replacing all my lenses in order to get the most out of it is stopping me. I just can't justify the expense.

 

[don1047]

I purchased a Sony a6600 and wished I'd had it 20 years ago. Go mirrorless!

 

[RAZKY]

I've been contemplating going mirrorless for a while now to replace my D3 and D4.

I really like the high frame rates a mirrorless and the IBS.

But the notion of replacing all my lenses in order to get the most out of it is stopping me. I just can't justify the expense.

From what I've read and heard, your DSLR lenses perform almost the same with the adapter on the mirrorless cameras.

 

[407370]

The camera industry is designed to get money out of your pocket.

Get the Z7ii body with the lens adapter and see if your current lenses get what you need.

And......

Pick an equivalent Z Mount version of the lens you use the most and ask a local friendly camera store to give it a little test run. Take the same pics with both lenses (as far as possible). You need to compare like for like and take time to see the difference.

I got the Nikkor badged "Z" Mount version of the Tamron 28-75 2.8 and it's awesome.

CHEERS
JBO

 

[Golem]

The camera industry is designed to get money out of your pocket.

Get the Z7ii body with the lens adapter and see if your current lenses get what you need.

And......

Pick an equivalent Z Mount version of the lens you use the most and ask a local friendly camera store to give it a little test run. Take the same pics with both lenses (as far as possible). You need to compare like for like and take time to see the difference.

I got the Nikkor badged "Z" Mount version of the Tamron 28-75 2.8 and it's awesome.

CHEERS
JBO

Definitely realistic. That Nikon list of recommended lenses is pure market BS and therefor always trotted out in forum discussions by brainwashed individuals. Whatever IQ edge such "better" lenses may demonstrate in "lab tests" just evaporates in typical real world use.

Typical real world" use is handheld with ISO above base and relying on AF. Tripod shots at base ISO with careful magnified MF can prove that better lenses really are a bit better. But they are only better at a stultified, critical, IQ-oriented style of photography, and in that ideal scenario theyre better by a very minor edge ... which is why the edge simply melts away in actual normal photography.

 

[Thiophilos]

The camera industry is designed to get money out of your pocket.

And our GAS has nothing to do with it!? LOL

It's always the fault of big companies.

 

[Don Fischer]

Just reading through this would stop me from going mirrorless. My little D 7000 does all I want. Want more? That cost money! Lot's of money sometimes. Seems I recall mirrorless cameras starting about $2500, shoot, all I want to do is take a picture!