the link was for a dx lens without the chip. i did not realize that it lacks the focus confirmation of the fx one i have. maybe it lacks ability to set aperture in camera, too.
they all seem to have have an aperture ring. i'll have to try it as i hadn't considered until now.
The one you linked in the other thread shows up as completely manual though,or am I mistaken? I was under the assumption that Samyang/Rokinon only make manual lenses.
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