Battou
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Oi....I am trying to help a kid who can't quite get a grasp on the fact he is a rookie when it comes down to photography. He posted a photo riddled with rookie mistakes....(Nightshot AF'd in hand at 40mm on a crop body ) and when I offered my advice his respoce was....well, standard issue.
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How do I finish this conversation with out comming off like a complete ass hole?
Battousai said:The "Light Escape" one...you got bitten by a very common rookie mistake, the image is OoF, this is because in low light situations like that one AF does not work, it doesn't matter what camera you use, do not AF in the dark, it'll fail every time. Use the manual focus option on your camera for those.
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Bas3onAc1d said:I think it was actually the slow shutter speed I had to use. I use flash to assist AF then lower the bulb in low light situations like that, my vision isn't very good so I can't MF much. It was 1/15 second at 40mm, I have decently steady hands but that's hard to manage.
I'm no rookie.
Battousai said:Bas3onAc1d said:I think it was actually the slow shutter speed I had to use. I use flash to assist AF then lower the bulb in low light situations like that, my vision isn't very good so I can't MF much. I'm no rookie.
That is simply too far away for the AF assist lamp to have had any effect, It's the AF. It has nothing to do with the shutter speed you used, If a slow shutter speed where responcable this, this and this would all be blurry.
Bas3onAc1d said:So you're saying 1/15s at zoomed focal lengths hand held should be clear, sharp pictures? Also let me mention I was ****ing freezing and my fingers actually felt like they were about to fall off. I don't think they should have been sharp at all, focused or not.
And maybe I like them unfocused, it looks like an older picture, I don't mind, I could have sharpened it in PS but I didn't. I dunno, sometimes they way you give advice pisses me off. I still appreciate it and whatnot, continue.
Battousai said:Bas3onAc1d said:So you're saying 1/15s at zoomed focal lengths hand held should be clear, sharp pictures? Also let me mention I was ****ing freezing and my fingers actually felt like they were about to fall off. I don't think they should have been sharp at all, focused or not.
... I could have sharpened it in PS but I didn't. I dunno, sometimes they way you give advice pisses me off. I still appreciate it and whatnot, continue.
...No 1/15 handheld should not be clear at all, Your edit with the shutter speed and lens information was not there when I began making my previous post. I'm sorry if I piss you off at times, you would not even want to see some of the critiques I get...they are brutal, I am trying not to be as brutal as the person who critiques mine but, I guess he is rubbing off on me. Which could be for the better as I have learned a lot from him and I am much better now for it.
I assume it's the kit lens (14-45 f/5.6) on a crop factor of about 2. This would mean you where shooting around 80mm as it would translate to my full frame cameras so you would need a shutter speed of 1/80 minimum to shoot handheld. This is basic photography, it is one of the first things they teach you in classes. Additionally, you are overestimating the power of Photoshop, also very common. A lot of people don't realize that USM can not bring an OoF image into focus, it never could.
Now, as far as artistic photography goes, I am a firm believer in "your vision, your gear, your rules" So I have to ask. Is that what you had in mind when you set up to take the shot, or are you merely settling with it? Is that the vision you had at the instant you took the photo?Bas3onAc1d said:And maybe I like them unfocused
How do I finish this conversation with out comming off like a complete ass hole?