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[Tight Knot]

I wonder what you will do if she is mother-in-law instead of Pope.

Mother-in-law? Heck, She goes over whether it'll save anyones life or not. J/K (sinister laugh MMMWWWAAAAHHHAAAHAHAHAAA!!!)

 

[Tight Knot]

I did not qoute my son, it turns out I paraphrased him. His quote was better "People are inherently good. They're just confused as to what good is. "

 

[unpopular]

At the same time, I disagree that "If 'right and wrong' were universal, then nobody would do anything wrong in the first place because they would not be justified in doing so", because so many people couldn't care if what they are doing is right or wrong, they just care how it affects them, and how it makes them feel.

You mention sociology, and it immediately turns to communism!

Some people would say that everything we do is ultimately selfish, and that our primary motivation is power. We donate to soup kitchens, homeless shelters and panhandlers not to help people, but rather to feel good about helping people. Successful people within society are just better at finding solutions to their needs which do not screw themselves in the end. And that is what this "morality" is ultimately about from an ecological POV.

After all, an anarcho-communist would say if you don't share, then you starve.

 

[sm4him]

Ok. Same scenario, but this time you're standing on a bridge above the tracks. Next to you is a very large man who, with certainty, you know if you push over the bridge and onto the tracks you'd stop the trolly but also you know with the same degree of certainty, you'll kill the man.
Do you push the man onto the tracks, killing him to save the rest?

Large man...Pope...Large Pope...whomever...I think I'd just throw MYSELF onto the tracks to save the hobos. If it works, I saved all their lives...if it doesn't, because only the Large man had enough weight to stop the trolley and save everyone...well, I'll be dead, so that part won't matter to me.

 

[ph0enix]

Large man...Pope...Large Pope...whomever...I think I'd just throw MYSELF onto the tracks to save the hobos. If it works, I saved all their lives...if it doesn't, because only the Large man had enough weight to stop the trolley and save everyone...well, I'll be dead, so that part won't matter to me.

We should add another disclaimer: If you throw yourself in, everyone dies

 

[Tight Knot]

At the same time, I disagree that "If 'right and wrong' were universal, then nobody would do anything wrong in the first place because they would not be justified in doing so", because so many people couldn't care if what they are doing is right or wrong, they just care how it affects them, and how it makes them feel.

You mention sociology, and it immediately turns to communism!

Some people would say that everything we do is ultimately selfish, and that our primary motivation is power. We donate to soup kitchens, homeless shelters and panhandlers not to help people, but rather to feel good about helping people. Successful people within society are just better at finding solutions to their needs which do not screw themselves in the end. And that is what this "morality" is ultimately about from an ecological POV.

After all, an anarcho-communist would say if you don't share, then you starve.

Socialism, not sociology.
But I definitely agree that some people are like that, and others say we're all like that (ultimately selfish), but in the end, that type of selfish is ma much better selfish that actually helps others, compared to the selfish of keeping it all for ourselves.
Never heard of an anarcho-communist. Please explain?

 

[Tight Knot]

Ok. Same scenario, but this time you're standing on a bridge above the tracks. Next to you is a very large man who, with certainty, you know if you push over the bridge and onto the tracks you'd stop the trolly but also you know with the same degree of certainty, you'll kill the man.
Do you push the man onto the tracks, killing him to save the rest?

Large man...Pope...Large Pope...whomever...I think I'd just throw MYSELF onto the tracks to save the hobos. If it works, I saved all their lives...if it doesn't, because only the Large man had enough weight to stop the trolley and save everyone...well, I'll be dead, so that part won't matter to me.

Very chivalrous. However, if I knew for certain that it wouldn't save their lives, I wouldn't waste mine. Think of all the photo's you miss out on lol.

 

[Tight Knot]

Large man...Pope...Large Pope...whomever...I think I'd just throw MYSELF onto the tracks to save the hobos. If it works, I saved all their lives...if it doesn't, because only the Large man had enough weight to stop the trolley and save everyone...well, I'll be dead, so that part won't matter to me.

We should add another disclaimer: If you throw yourself in, everyone dies

Aaahh!! That's good.

 

[unpopular]

Never heard of an anarcho-communist. Please explain?

LOL. That's a whole different topic. Feel free to PM me.

 

[sm4him]

Large man...Pope...Large Pope...whomever...I think I'd just throw MYSELF onto the tracks to save the hobos. If it works, I saved all their lives...if it doesn't, because only the Large man had enough weight to stop the trolley and save everyone...well, I'll be dead, so that part won't matter to me.

We should add another disclaimer: If you throw yourself in, everyone dies

Aaahh!! That's good.

Haha, well, I still might just throw myself in...let 'em ALL die instead of me having to make that kind of decision that will live with me the rest of my life. But then, I've always sucked at decison making. :lmao:

Also, I'm pretty sure I've long since forgotten what the point of this little exercise was, lol.

 

[unpopular]

So the Pope, a very fat man and two hobos walk into a bar...

 

[jowensphoto]

So the Pope, a very fat man and two hobos walk into a bar...

"ow!"

 

[Tight Knot]

So the Pope, a very fat man and two hobos walk into a bar...

And the bartender says"Is this some type of joke"?

 

[Buckster]

Much as I would like to make the correct moral and ethical decision, which I believe would be to sacrifice the one for the many, I would likely base my decision on which one would likely land me in prison or even on death row for murder.

Doing anything "active" to kill the fat man, even to save many others, is just begging to take a trip through being booked, jailed and prosecuted for murder, because that's what lawyers and judges do. If you're real lucky and pay enough money, you'd might eventually get out and get to write a book about it and have it turned into a move. But probably you'd just end up in the slammer for the rest of your life, or get put down like a rabid dog.

That said, realistically, a lot of people would probably die as I watched in horror, later claiming I was too stunned and in shock to react at all.

We could of course up the ante again, by making those 15 people my closest family and friends. In that case, I'd have to kill the fat man and take my chances with the Justice system.

 

[unpopular]

So the Pope, a very fat man and two hobos walk into a bar...

The bartender says "I think I prefer the one about a the attorney and the stripper"