Please help to analyze below sample image and method to achieve

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  1. prashant4u

    prashant4u TPF Noob!

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    Hi, Technology has improved and now expectation is to get ultra high resolution image with effects. Can experts point out how this is achieved with a photoshop or any other adobe tool. I have been struggling to understand whether its a real clicked photo or achieved through tools.

    Your help will be very much appreciated and beneficially to the community to raise the bar of our work. Thanks in advance.

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    I've sure the first has quite a bit of post processing, probably exposure adjustments, maybe some colour tweeks, noise reduction, doge and burn layer.

    The second looks to me like it was shot with good lighting placement - strong backlight and some fill from the opposite direction. Sky colour looks to me like it might have been shot in tungsten WB with the flashes gelled to balance it out. This probably also has some post processing though I'd expect you could get 90% there with good lighting alone.
     
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    I would say that both are 90% good lighting. The first is using at least a 5 light set-up, and definitely has a bit of processing intended to produce a 'gritty' feel. The second is using 2 lights with a much 'cleaner' look. Both images are primarily the result of good planning and technique, and NOT an over-reliance on post-processing.
     
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    Yep. It's mostly about light quality, direction, and photographer skill and knowledge used to produce most of what the photographer wanted when the shutter was released. No doubt there was some post process image editing , but becuase of good planning and set up before shutter release it wouldn't take much editing.

    In particular note the likely use of a tungsten WB camera setting/gells on the lights Weepete mentioned regards the second image.
     
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    There’s something odd about the first image that I’m trying to identify.

    I’m noticing how his arms and wides of his torso are lit ... but less on the centerline of his chest and everything below the waist goes quite dark. It suggests lights were placed on the sides and about even with his body so that only when he “leans back” does he get the light.

    But the wierd bit is the “water” (which may not be water). Zoom in around the sides of the frame near the top and you’ll see what appears to be streaks ... as if some milky substance is hitting glass and running down.

    It is “as if” the subject is positioned behind a giant glass window. If it were a small glass nearer to the lens, I don’t think the streaks of liquid would be focused well enough to perceive them.

    It may be a photoshop composition where the “water” was photographed separately. Another reason I suspect this is the case is because his clothes don’t act like wet clothes. (Wet fabric wants to stick to the skin and his shirt and pants hang more like dry clothes).



    The 2nd shot looks easier... two lights (look at the shadows). This shot doesn’t have a level horizon.
     
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    100% he was not shot in the rain. that mud isn't even real...


    second shot is easy:

    1 main light above and in front of the subject, a 2nd firing bare from behind -- light stand was photoshopped out.
     
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    Look closely behind her arm on the second image, looks like they didn't even photoshop out the light stand.
     
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    Braineack Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    oh yeah i see it now. lol.
     
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    I found out how to take the first shot by accident last year. Notice it is a very wide angle lens (probably a frame filling fisheye)? Assuming this is in a studio, you just need a fine misting spray bottle of water, maybe about 1' in front of the lens, and have some lighting in the area. Get the depth of field right and the fine droplets look big like that. Notice how they look at the near edge of the depth of field? The only trick is to set it up in advance with a dummy and get your lighting and everything right with test shots. And then do enough live shots with the "model" to get a good one. But there is no special post processing necessary for it.

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    Actually, having thought about it a bit more, it was probably taken with an "action camera". A GoPro Hero 4 Silver, Hero 5 or later, would all be capable of getting this picture out of the box. The standard focus distance is something like 4' and the "model" would have been within the depth of field. These later version GoPro's have a lot of manual control which also helps. Another good camera "out of the box" would be a GitUp "Git2" which has a higher 16MB resolution sensor and an equally good set of manual controls. I have a modified SJCAM M20 (re-focussed) that could have taken this picture.

    The small sensor size (1/2.3") used in these "action cameras" is part of the depth of field equation that allows a picture like this to be taken easily.
     
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    First image is Studio Shot with heavy photoshop work...second shot is not, with just some edits.

    As about first shot lots of layers and masking done....Subject is shot in studio, rain effect is different layer, backgorund is different layer, and lots of other skills like use of brush, dodging and burning and more.
     
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    this shot is 80% photoshop. the camera mattered very little here -- but he was shot under studio lights, it appears to be two rims from the side/behind, and two at 45° to camera.

    the background is probably 100% digital, the ground doesn't even look like grass, the lights as just lens flare filters.

    looks like 2 or 3 different layers of rain:
    1. glass drizzle look
    2. rain bokeh balls.
    4. rain white specs.
    3. layer of fine-rain close to his body above his head/shoulders/arm.

    there's a few color overlays, his right hand is glowing green.

    I'm pretty certain the mud on his shirt is an overlay.

    the photographer did NOT spray water in front of the lens to get the effect, he googled "rain" and dropped it into his artboard.



    I've done something very similar:
    Before and After thread!
     
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    Hah! So there are two ways to do this! I guess we gravitate to our experiences. I would find my way easier and you would no doubt find your way easier.
     

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