Shane Anderson
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Nice pics Gary, love the first one!!
sorry i didnt really read all the posts in here, but what got my attention were the bike tricks haha. for bmx photography, opposed to other sports you usually wanna scoot back some and get more of the environment in the shot.
this tells the story behind the trick. where he came from and where he's going all in one shot. im mean yea sure you cn zoom right in on the kid in the air. but it doesnt tell you anything about what he's doing. this is coming from a bmx rider/ photographer.
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like these two shots, you can get more of a feel of whats actually taking place in the photo. and just from looking at your first shot, it seemed like the lighting was a bit flat and that the colors could be more vibrant. but all this is just my opinion.
Man, its rays MTB! I have shot there before, and despite looking like there may be some usable light, its poorly lit. The same situation happens in the park I use to ride here in toronto.
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I set this shot up two years ago and let someone take it for me. It really needs a third light to fill the ramp in a little but you get an idea about the separation between the rider and background using light. The photo I posted does lack some of the separation it should have since I was wearing a shirt and helmet that was the exact same color as the rafters. The photo could have been better had it be taken at F4.0 rather than F7 that if I remember correctly was taken at.
Anyways getting back to your photo I would never turn to PS for any form of simulated lens or action blur, just looks cheap. For any "still" ie lacking visible action (see motorsports pan) try to keep your app to 4 or lower and make use of light to form separation.
a) your shutter speed appears too high. 1/250 will freeze the rider but not the wheels and give more impression of motion.
Here are a couple of taken with my D5000 and 70-200 lens:
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That photo looks sweet man. It could definitely use a light on the ramp, but I like it. Mind telling me how your flashes were positioned in relation to the rider? I'm assuming one right and one left, but how far to the side? I really can't wait to get back there and get another try at getting some good photos (and riding). It's just hard to find a place to shoot where I'm not gonna get run over haha
I know the rule of thirds. But most of the time it doesn't apply to sports photography because you want the subject to fill the frame. The main reason my subject in the example photo doesn't fill th frame is that I was trying to show how high off the ground he was.
The problem with a crop such as that in BMX is that we now have no idea what the rider is doing. Is he flying out of a ramp, jumping into foam or jumping a box rhythm? The original photo still suffers from the same problem despite the fact that I know it was taken on the medium rhythm at rays. Had I never been to the park I really cant tell whats going on. This is the issue that anyone shooting action sports must work around. Generally you want to have where they came from and where they are going to in the same frame. It gives the action some form of continuity.
That photo looks sweet man. It could definitely use a light on the ramp, but I like it. Mind telling me how your flashes were positioned in relation to the rider? I'm assuming one right and one left, but how far to the side? I really can't wait to get back there and get another try at getting some good photos (and riding). It's just hard to find a place to shoot where I'm not gonna get run over haha
With only two strobes and poor park lighting I had to make the compromise and choose to primarily light the rider. The flash on the left sits up on the ramps deck while the other sits down on the mini ramps flat bottom to the right further back. Both point towards the rider and are both set to full power. Normally I would not set both to 1/1 but since there is a big difference in distance to the subject the further light appears as if its not as strong automatically despite being at the same power. The end result is that the strobe on the left is the key light that gives the good separation and the light on the right acts as the fill light. This photo was edited before I color profiled my LCD so when I look at it now its been pushed way too hard. If I can find the NEF file I will be able to bring more of the ramps surface out with fill light adjustment and then edit the color and contrast accordingly. Man I should get on that!
Rays is awesome, I do have a photo of me riding there, but its pretty brutal. It again suffers from asking two lights to do too much. It would have been a lot better with a third light, or changing the angle of the shot to behind the ramp on the landing. I could have then repositioned my strobes to light the subject and the ramp. Anyways these are all very old photos, I really have to try shooting BMX now that I have came a long way.
PS if you are 4 hours from rays where are you from? Mi or NY? I am about 5 hours away since I live near Toronto.
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