I have no technical knowledge.. Now give me money please.

[Rekd]

^^^ I always assumed a "professional" was someone who makes a living doing something. Like photography.

I know lots of professionals who didn't go to college. Professional drivers, photogs, writers, machinists, etc etc etc.

Yep. Silly you.

 

[ChevyBaby]

Professional just implys you do it as a *paid* profession dunnit?

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Depends on who you ask.

Been down that road before too. LOL

 

[twoboysnmygirl]

Well, I see both sides but there has to be a middle ground.

Do people with small incomes or low income families not deserve any sort of photos? There are people out there that will NEVER be able to afford a $2000 or $5000 photo shoot...or even a $400 shoot, for that matter.

I don't charge as much, I'm just starting out, it's true. I don't feel my work is WORTH as much as someone with years more experience than me, so I don't charge as much. I do not, however, think I'm taking anything from said photographer b/c I think it shows in the work and I think that people who are going to pay thousands of dollars will pay it for more experience and quality. Does this mean I'll never get there? No, but I also think at least this provides an option for those people who can't afford top of the line. Just my opinion, obviously.

I also think that ALL photographers started somewhere. No, I don't think you should just purchase a camera and call yourself a photographer, but when is it ok? 1 year of study? 2? 10? How can such a thing be judged?

 

[Overread35]

She's telling the truth... I'm on that forum too... I saw the whole thing go down.

Wait wait what forum? I wanna know what's happening!!

It's a girly, married-life forum... you want no part in it... I promise you. Most of the time *I* don't think I want any part in it....

Married life forum? You mean where you gather and discuss the various methods of knitting socks, backing buns and just what the best way to hoover under the guys legs are when its footy watching time?

:mrgreen:

 

[NikonNewbie]

^^^ I always assumed a "professional" was someone who makes a living doing something. Like photography.

I know lots of professionals who didn't go to college. Professional drivers, photogs, writers, machinists, etc etc etc.

Yep. Silly you.

Yep! lol
I think because I hired Lindell studios to take care of my wedding and they kept throwing the word "professional" meaning...your gonna pay what we ask because we all have college degrees....and turns out, the photographer was great, but I gotta say their presentation kinda sucked!
My pictures had dust all over the proofs...and they said, "oh we can take that off the ones you order" ...and the ones I ordered still had the damn dust there...and I had to POINT it out to them! and not to mention their video service was HORRIBLE.
thats why I thought you weren't a pro unless you went to college...they beat it into my head...lol

 

[Robin Usagani]

Dude.. I just started like 7-8 months ago. Yup, I have been charging people left and right and some want more pictures. I have 2 weddings in March.

 

[NikonNewbie]

My husband showed me this huge rant on Craig's List about what you get when you don't hire a professional...I was thinking to myself "jaded" the whole time...he made sure to point out how much time and equipment and insurance and yada yada...but still...if you dont' have that money to pay someone like him...ya just don't have it! and if someone has a talent but not the knotches in the bedpest (or is it belt?) why not save yourself some money, especially in this hard ass economy.

 

[NikonNewbie]

Dude.. I just started like 7-8 months ago. Yup, I have been charging people left and right and some want more pictures. I have 2 weddings in March.

:thumbup:

 

[ChevyBaby]

^^^ I always assumed a "professional" was someone who makes a living doing something. Like photography.

I know lots of professionals who didn't go to college. Professional drivers, photogs, writers, machinists, etc etc etc.

Yep. Silly you.

Yep! lol
I think because I hired Lindell studios to take care of my wedding and they kept throwing the word "professional" meaning...your gonna pay what we ask because we all have college degrees....and turns out, the photographer was great, but I gotta say their presentation kinda sucked!
My pictures had dust all over the proofs...and they said, "oh we can take that off the ones you order" ...and the ones I ordered still had the damn dust there...and I had to POINT it out to them! and not to mention their video service was HORRIBLE.
thats why I thought you weren't a pro unless you went to college...they beat it into my head...lol

A qualification just looks good on a CV but photographers who wanna hire you care more about a portfolio and a creative mind normally.

You can learn exactly the same stuff you learn during schooling, anywhere if you care enough.

That's why my first responce to this thread was what it was. I dont think it matters how you've learnt your trade as long as you can make everyone smile. Whats the harm in that? :sillysmi:

 

[phiya]

I'm trying to build my portfolio and learn so that I too can at some point be an amateur photog that makes some extra cash on the weekends. But I'm not going to throw a site up and call myself pro, and I'm not going to seek business until I know that I'm able to produce results that I'm happy with, consistently. And I'm a bigger critic than people viewing my pictures often are.

I have a couple of friends who recently got married. Lets just say the images on he photography companies website were about 30,000 times better than the ones that they got for their wedding. It seems like the couple is happy with them, but I know they're crap. I won't tell them, but they got ripped off by a company charging a minimum of 2K for wedding photos that are barely worth the paper they're printed on. It's the integrity of the profession that takes a hit in the long run. I double as a CPA during the day; and let me tell you, the profession and it's standards address routinely the outward appearance to the public as a result of CPA actions. It's a bit different because being a CPA actually requires education and certification; but the concept is the same. The more people pay good money for bad pictures, the more they are going to be wary of paying any money for pictures at all.

 

[Art of Emotion]

In this day and age where technology is cheap exists the ability for anyone to buy a DSLR and "Go Pro" by taking fabulous shots right out of the camera.

With that in mind, are you finding yourself put out, offended, threatened, angry or even sad about the massive influx of competition to the world of Professional Photography?

If so, you need to back up and take stock of your own ability to wield a camera.

Seriously.

If you're that damned worried about what other people are doing it can only mean you lack the skill (and/or confidence) to over-come the raging amateurs like me who are muscling in on your turf.

Mkthx. :twak:

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beginner, charging, frustrations

RAWR!!! :lmao:

I find it amusing that you'd read so much into my post Thank you for 'ass'uming my take on these types of things.

I am not 'worried' I don't think I ever mentioned that in my post. My thing was with the actual 'quote' that someone had said that erked me. Now if you have anything to offer in terms of what you feel about what that person said I'm more then open to hearing your opinion. Otherwise you look rather bitter and make yourself look silly as far as 'ass'uming I lack skill or confidence. I'm very proud of where I am in terms of my photography. I am merely starting a topic it's not a crime is it? If it is please let me know and I'll submit to your indepth psychology degree you seem to hold there.

Cheers

 

[Art of Emotion]

Wait wait what forum? I wanna know what's happening!!

It's a girly, married-life forum... you want no part in it... I promise you. Most of the time *I* don't think I want any part in it....

Married life forum? You mean where you gather and discuss the various methods of knitting socks, backing buns and just what the best way to hoover under the guys legs are when its footy watching time?

:mrgreen:

Sex sex and more sex of course.. that's all we talk about over there

You guys would rip a hole in some of those girls knee highs. I'd welcome them coming over Emily!! It'd give some a good dose of reality.

 

[Tbini87]

Dude.. I just started like 7-8 months ago. Yup, I have been charging people left and right and some want more pictures. I have 2 weddings in March.

Love to hear it Schwetty. Also like to see you around here trying to learn and get better. I am in the same boat starting a business with my wife right now. Been doing a lot of free work, but a lot of people are asking for our prices to hire us as well. We still have a long way to go and a lot to learn, but we are getting better slowly and surely. I don't think 6 years in college are necessary to be a good photographer. People and business skills are important as well, and I don't think only "photography" skills should be looked at when discussing "professional photogs".

 

[Rekd]

In this day and age where technology is cheap exists the ability for anyone to buy a DSLR and "Go Pro" by taking fabulous shots right out of the camera.

With that in mind, are you finding yourself put out, offended, threatened, angry or even sad about the massive influx of competition to the world of Professional Photography?

If so, you need to back up and take stock of your own ability to wield a camera.

Seriously.

If you're that damned worried about what other people are doing it can only mean you lack the skill (and/or confidence) to over-come the raging amateurs like me who are muscling in on your turf.

Mkthx. :twak:

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beginner, charging, frustrations

RAWR!!! :lmao:

I find it amusing that you'd read so much into my post Thank you for 'ass'uming my take on these types of things.

I am not 'worried' I don't think I ever mentioned that in my post. My thing was with the actual 'quote' that someone had said that erked me. Now if you have anything to offer in terms of what you feel about what that person said I'm more then open to hearing your opinion. Otherwise you look rather bitter and make yourself look silly as far as 'ass'uming I lack skill or confidence. I'm very proud of where I am in terms of my photography. I am merely starting a topic it's not a crime is it? If it is please let me know and I'll submit to your indepth psychology degree you seem to hold there.

Cheers

Don't flatter yourself too much. This was directed at ALL the whiner-baby's complaining for the last several years about all the n00bie photogs coming around snatching up all the paying work. It's not "just" about you.

Little secret: I used to feel slightly bad for those insecure photogs when I first went pro. Now I just LOL.

And be serious now, if you weren't finding yourself put out, offended, threatened, angry or even sad (and yes, "erked") about the massive influx of competition to the world of Professional Photography, why'd you post this topic to seek the condolences and compassion from others?

This one response stood out to me and honestly really erked me

:hugs: