Discussion in 'General Shop Talk' started by tirediron, Sep 10, 2017.
Just asked the wife.... I'm in trouble again...What was I thinking?
Maybe the 'No Pay' option is the default. She, like millions of others, don't know Craigslist like the back of our collective hands.
Often the MUA also does it on a TFP basis. All my TFP shoots include digital files because well.. they cost me nothing, while prints cost me something. And the model isn't gonna buy anything anyway.
Quick, go buy a new camera you want while she's still mad!
Add to that a stylist, or at least someone with a comb (guess it must have been breezy with the windows open). Not that she isn't a lovely young woman, but realistically I don't know that modeling is gonna happen... (I watch Project Runway, those models know how to pose and walk to show the clothing, etc.; it takes more than a handful of photos and calling it a portfolio.)
Digital files don't cost nothing... what about the camera, and lenses, and a new camera to upgrade eventually? and a backup camera, and media cards, and a computer with a good monitor, and an internet connection, and photo editing software, and eventually a new computer... and paper and ink and a printer for those 9x12" prints she wants for 'no pay'?
And that's just the equipment, then there's time - time has value. Not just the session, but all the time (and possibly money) that photographers put into learning and developing skills. That's the thing with creative work - talent has value, it's just harder to put a price on something like that. Think about almost any other service, you pay for parts/equipment, but mostly for time and expertise.
I'm not sure this is just for a portfolio anyway because she wants something specific - three poses, four 9x12" prints - so there must be some specific purpose in mind.
1st mistake, after 39 years, I've learned "tis better to ask forgiveness", because once I get past the 3 day barrier she won't remember it anyhow
Trade for services?????? Hmmm
Coincidentally this is exactly what the only real agency in town requires as part of their application. I suspect she is going to be sorely disappointed with her results.
You're missing the part where the photographers who to TFP shoots are doing it to build a portfolio so they have a body of work to show to book paid shoots.
Generally photographers doing TF work aren't working professionals, they're amateurs trying to build a name for themselves and step to the professional level. Like me.
Just better off to take selfie shots on an iPhone. Seriously, there are a lot of good pics done in iPhone.
Or, as I often do, for testing purposes... "Hey I wonder how it would look if I did this with this to that..." IMO, this isn't TF* shoot material because she's specifying exactly what she wants with no discussion about what the photographer might want. When I do TF* work, it's always half for me and half for the model. So if it's a 90 minute session, 45 minutes are me shooting what I want, and 45 what the model wants.
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