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She spat on him then came at him and shoved or hit him.There are several videos floating around that show it clearly.
 
Women just need to know their place. I mean, you just don't talk to men like that. She'll show some respect next time.;)
 
She spat on him then came at him and shoved or hit him.There are several videos floating around that show it clearly.

So what. Take it like a man and do the right thing. He is no better then her when he decided to act like that.
 
She spat on him then came at him and shoved or hit him.There are several videos floating around that show it clearly.

So what. Take it like a man and do the right thing. He is no better then her when he decided to act like that.

Archaic.... notion...

Next up.. women should know their own place and stay in it?


I think (I hope) we have progressed beyond that.. If it were a man on the receiving end of that upper cut, we wouldn't have this discussion; A double standard. I believe women in our society deserve better than that.
 
mishele said:
Women just need to know their place. I mean, you just don't talk to men like that. She'll show some respect next time.;)

What do you tell a woman with two black eyes? Nothing she hasn't been told twice already. See domestic abuse can be funny. ;)
 
She spat on him then came at him and shoved or hit him.There are several videos floating around that show it clearly.

So what. Take it like a man and do the right thing. He is no better then her when he decided to act like that.

Archaic.... notion...

Next up.. women should know their own place and stay in it?


I think (I hope) we have progressed beyond that.. If it were a man on the receiving end of that upper cut, we wouldn't have this discussion; A double standard. I believe women in our society deserve better than that.

So answering violence with violence isn't archaic? An eye for eye isn't archaic?

Please...its called rising above and being the better person. And I truly believe there are some traditions that are honorable and right.

One of those is a man not hitting a women. I don't care if its a double standard. Men should not hit women.
 
He had absolutely no right to hit her like that. That **** is despicable. I know that her actions were inappropriate but do any of you really believe that he was in danger and needed to sucker punch her like that?

He should of removed her from the bus. If she wouldn't comply he should of stopped and called the police and had her removed. But to hit a women like that when you're not in any real danger is cowardly and despicable.

The hit was extreme I do agree. Even I felt it and I didn't get hit. Like I said he just broke, I can't fault him. We have no idea what is going on in that mans head... Maybe he's having a bad day, year, decade, we don't know. There are other videos where it shows her taunting him while the bus is in motion. Now when that woman was attacking him and if that bus was in motion, if he lost control, and people were killed. We would want this woman's head on a platter. She put her hands on him first and spit in his face... imagine someone spitting in your face and see if you can hold your composure. He got out of his seat that was his mistake and I'm sure all the years of driving that has never happened to him and he lost it. That's a old man... not a young one, old. He probably said f*ck it I'm retiring and POW. They both acted horribly. At the end of the day though... keep your hands to yourself if you don't want to get hurt. Women keep putting there hands on men and use that double standard. You don't want a beat down... keep your hands to yourself.
 
He had absolutely no right to hit her like that. That **** is despicable. I know that her actions were inappropriate but do any of you really believe that he was in danger and needed to sucker punch her like that?

He should of removed her from the bus. If she wouldn't comply he should of stopped and called the police and had her removed. But to hit a women like that when you're not in any real danger is cowardly and despicable.

The hit was extreme I do agree. Even I felt it and I didn't get hit. Like I said he just broke, I can't fault him. We have no idea what is going on in that mans head... Maybe he's having a bad day, year, decade, we don't know. There are other videos where it shows her taunting him while the bus is in motion. Now when that woman was attacking him and if that bus was in motion, if he lost control, and people were killed. We would want this woman's head on a platter. She put her hands on him first and spit in his face... imagine someone spitting in your face and see if you can hold your composure. He got out of his seat that was his mistake and I'm sure all the years of driving that has never happened to him and he lost it. That's a old man... not a young one, old. He probably said f*ck it I'm retiring and POW. They both acted horribly. At the end of the day though... keep your hands to yourself if you don't want to get hurt. Women keep putting there hands on men and use that double standard. You don't want a beat down... keep your hands to yourself.


We can certainly agree on one thing. They both acted horribly. But I don't understand how a group of well educated, intellectual people can watch that video and say he was right in sucker punching a women.
 
JAC526 said:
So answering violence with violence isn't archaic? An eye for eye isn't archaic?

Please...its called rising above and being the better person. And I truly believe there are some traditions that are honorable and right.

One of those is a man not hitting a women. I don't care if its a double standard. Men should not hit women.

And women should no hit men, but she did, and she probably won't do it again. I dot condone either of their actions, but I understand why he did what he did.

Gender roles and the like are archaic as well.

If it wasn't a woman you'd probably have a different opinion. Equality means total equality in my opinion.

I personally don't have any qualms with hiring a woman if I feel I am threatened, just like I would a man. Women aren't anything special when compared to men (at least that is the contemporary view...supposedly)
 
JAC526 said:
So answering violence with violence isn't archaic? An eye for eye isn't archaic?

Please...its called rising above and being the better person. And I truly believe there are some traditions that are honorable and right.

One of those is a man not hitting a women. I don't care if its a double standard. Men should not hit women.

And women should no hit men, but she did, and she probably won't do it again. I dot condone either of their actions, but I understand why he did what he did.

Gender roles and the like are archaic as well.

If it wasn't a woman you'd probably have a different opinion. Equality means total equality in my opinion.

If he had done that to a man I still would call it a cheap shot. You want to fight someone call them out and go for it. But to walk up to someone man or woman and sucker punch them is a **** thing to do.
 
JAC526 said:
If he had done that to a man I still would call it a cheap shot. You want to fight someone call them out and go for it. But to walk up to someone man or woman and sucker punch them is a **** thing to do.

Except you specifically said hitting a woman is wrong. It sounded like you were being gender-specific instead of being more objective.
 
JAC526 said:
If he had done that to a man I still would call it a cheap shot. You want to fight someone call them out and go for it. But to walk up to someone man or woman and sucker punch them is a **** thing to do.

Except you specifically said hitting a woman is wrong. It sounded like you were being gender-specific instead of being more objective.

Hitting a women is wrong. Sucker punching someone is also wrong unless you truly feel it is in defense of your life. If you feel your life is threatened I can completely understand and condone preemptive action.

I guess I'm old fashioned but I believe that unless your life is in danger a man should not physically attack a woman. I'd rather take the black eye.
 
We can certainly agree on one thing. They both acted horribly. But I don't understand how a group of well educated, intellectual people can watch that video and say he was right in sucker punching a women.


His reaction was impulsive, there was no thought. If I was a woman driving that bus I would have beat the crap out of her. The double standard allows her to get away with her behavior. It doesn't give her an excuse. The driver said it clear and true... you want to act like man I'll treat you like one. If we go by your well educated people version that whole bus would have beat her to death including me. Treat they neighbor as thyself... you want to mess with my life while the bus is in motion and cause an accident. The same way she disregarded all those passenger lives is the same way I would done hers. His action was too severe... if he slapped her I would have accepted it in all honesty. He punched her like a man. It's uncalled for. But that's me being a woman with my double standard. She hit him with a closed fist. An eye for an eye, it's a new dawn it’s a new day. Society has changed. Keep your hand to yourself.
 
JAC526 said:
Hitting a women is wrong. Sucker punching someone is also wrong unless you truly feel it is in defense of your life. If you feel your life is threatened I can completely understand and condone preemptive action.

I guess I'm old fashioned but I believe that unless your life is in danger a man should not physically attack a woman. I'd rather take the black eye.

You keep our principles and I'll keep mine. In my eyes women are human and should be treated equally as men should.

I don't want to sound like someone who goes around kicking babies and abusing people but I've had a woman try to beat up on me before, and, well, she hasn't messed with me since then.

I believe in personal responsibility and consequences. You don't f**** with someone bigger than you. That's a general rule that I live by, and I'm not surprised when those who break that rule suffer the consequences.

(Now that I've actually seen the video I would have done the same thing. We can go on and on about how we would have handled it but adrenaline is one hell of a drug. "Being the bigger man" is easily overridden by "you think you can just hit me *****?") lol
 
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We can certainly agree on one thing. They both acted horribly. But I don't understand how a group of well educated, intellectual people can watch that video and say he was right in sucker punching a women.


His reaction was impulsive, there was no thought. If I was a woman driving that bus I would have beat the crap out of her. The double standard allows her to get away with her behavior. It doesn't give her an excuse. The driver said it clear and true... you want to act like man I'll treat you like one. If we go by your well educated people version that whole bus would have beat her to death including me. Treat they neighbor as thyself... you want to mess with my life while the bus is in motion and cause an accident. The same way she disregarded all those passenger lives is the same way I would done hers. His action was too severe... if he slapped her I would have accepted it in all honesty. He punched her like a man. It's uncalled for. But that's me being a woman with my double standard. She hit him with a closed fist. An eye for an eye, it's a new dawn it’s a new day. Society has changed. Keep your hand to yourself.

The double standard would not allow a women to get away with what he did either. Violence is wrong unless you are defending yourself. When he or the hypothetical she hit that women he/hypothetical she did it offensively and not in self defense.

Second, she didn't act like a man should act. They both acted like idiots and neither's actions were justified and both should be punished.
 

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