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[Netskimmer]

I think you misunderstand my view somewhat. I am all for defending oneself. That is not my issue. But the man on the bus was not defending himself. He was in no danger.

But I'll bet she doesn't bully anymore bus drivers. Lol

Don't underestimate the power of stupidity.

 

[IByte]

We can certainly agree on one thing. They both acted horribly. But I don't understand how a group of well educated, intellectual people can watch that video and say he was right in sucker punching a women.

Probably at one time or another all of us had that one person we had to deal with like that. Secondly, a lot of people are tired of that double standard "You can slap me, but if I hit you it's abuse", respect goes both ways.

 

[JAC526]

We can certainly agree on one thing. They both acted horribly. But I don't understand how a group of well educated, intellectual people can watch that video and say he was right in sucker punching a women.

Probably at one time or another all of us had that one person we had to deal with like that. Secondly, a lot of people are tired of that double standard "You can slap me, but if I hit you it's abuse", respect goes both ways.

Apparently a lot of people are tired of "two wrongs don't make a right." But yeah I can see how it is frustrating.

 

[IByte]

I think it's safe to say that everyone on this forum doesn't condone any type of violence against anyone. But in the Digital/Information Age where people have access to any kind of recording media; it's really not a cut and dry situation anymore.

 

[usayit]

If he had done that to a man I still would call it a cheap shot. You want to fight someone call them out and go for it. But to walk up to someone man or woman and sucker punch them is a **** thing to do.

Except you specifically said hitting a woman is wrong. It sounded like you were being gender-specific instead of being more objective.

^^ What he said...!!! ^^

My original response was that I wouldn't hit anyone and that both parties probably didn't make the right choices. regardless of gender. This has absolutely nothing to do with violence vs violence or educated vs non-educated. This has everything to do with the double standard that IMO is an insult to women population.

JAC526, you didn't say hitting was wrong. You specifically said hitting a woman is wrong implying if the rider were a man it would more acceptable. You also said you are all for protecting yourself, does the exception include if the attacking person were a woman? You are diluting your original position with exceptions... or shall I say.. "doubling down".

 

[JAC526]

If I had to defend myself I would defend myself from man or woman.

I don't understand how it is an insult to a woman that if she hits me I am unwilling to hit her back. How is that an insult?

If the rider had been a man the drivers actions were still wrong. You want to fight someone call them out and fight them fair and square. Suckerpunching someone is cowardly.

It seemed to me like the rider wasn't really threatening the bus driver once he stopped the bus. So why not exit the bus and call the police?

 

[rexbobcat]

If I had to defend myself I would defend myself from man or woman.

I don't understand how it is an insult to a woman that if she hits me I am unwilling to hit her back. How is that an insult?

If the rider had been a man the drivers actions were still wrong. You want to fight someone call them out and fight them fair and square. Suckerpunching someone is cowardly.

It seemed to me like the rider wasn't really threatening the bus driver once he stopped the bus. So why not exit the bus and call the police?

I've had a woman snap at me because I held a door open for her.

There's a large portion of women who appreciate male chivalry, but there's also a growing group who don't care for it.

 

[JAC526]

If I had to defend myself I would defend myself from man or woman.

I don't understand how it is an insult to a woman that if she hits me I am unwilling to hit her back. How is that an insult?

If the rider had been a man the drivers actions were still wrong. You want to fight someone call them out and fight them fair and square. Suckerpunching someone is cowardly.

It seemed to me like the rider wasn't really threatening the bus driver once he stopped the bus. So why not exit the bus and call the police?

I've had a woman snap at me because I held a door open for her.

There's a large portion of women who appreciate male chivalry, but there's also a growing group who don't care for it.

Well she's an idiot. I've held doors for men and women and if someone decides to read it in some way other than just a common courtesy they can go kick rocks.

 

[Netskimmer]

I've had a woman snap at me because I held a door open for her.

There's a large portion of women who appreciate male chivalry, but there's also a growing group who don't care for it.

I had one go off on me on our first date because I tried to pick up the check. I never got why she got so mad, if she felt so passionate about splitting the bill, why not say so at the beginning? I don't mind an independent woman the likes to pay her own way but give me a heads up before having a meltdown. Of coarse I had another blow me off after our first date because she said she wanted to split the bill and I accepted. Apparently I was suppose to prove my chivalry by insisting that I pay so who the !@#$ knows! Honestly I probably dodged a bullet with both of 'em.

 

[IByte]

I had one go off on me on our first date because I tried to pick up the check. I never got why she got so mad, if she felt so passionate about splitting the bill, why not say so at the beginning? I don't mind an independent woman the likes to pay her own way but give me a heads up before having a meltdown. Of coarse I had another blow me off after our first date because she said she wanted to split the bill and I accepted. Apparently I was suppose to prove my chivalry by insisting that I pay so who the !@#$ knows! Honestly I probably dodged a bullet with both of 'em.

That's why I stick to physics, way easier to understand .

 

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I've had a woman snap at me because I held a door open for her.

There's a large portion of women who appreciate male chivalry, but there's also a growing group who don't care for it.

I had one go off on me on our first date because I tried to pick up the check. I never got why she got so mad, if she felt so passionate about splitting the bill, why not say so at the beginning? I don't mind an independent woman the likes to pay her own way but give me a heads up before having a meltdown. Of coarse I had another blow me off after our first date because she said she wanted to split the bill and I accepted. Apparently I was suppose to prove my chivalry by insisting that I pay so who the !@#$ knows! Honestly I probably dodged a bullet with both of 'em.

If at any point a woman gives you a choice - put your hands up and surrender because there's little hope you can win

 

[jake337]

So answering violence with violence isn't archaic? An eye for eye isn't archaic?

Please...its called rising above and being the better person. And I truly believe there are some traditions that are honorable and right.

One of those is a man not hitting a women. I don't care if its a double standard. Men should not hit women.

And women should no hit men, but she did, and she probably won't do it again. I dot condone either of their actions, but I understand why he did what he did.

Gender roles and the like are archaic as well.

If it wasn't a woman you'd probably have a different opinion. Equality means total equality in my opinion.

If he had done that to a man I still would call it a cheap shot. You want to fight someone call them out and go for it. But to walk up to someone man or woman and sucker punch them is a **** thing to do.

He didn't sucker punch here. She was just taunting him with the old notion that "this old man won't hit a young girl"......



Kinda like the old "mess with the school security guard because he can't do anything"......



Who really knows. This may have been an ongoing harassment situation and he just snapped.


Personally I believe one should never use violence except in self defense situations. I cannot tell you if that old man felt threatened or not as I am not him, nor was I there at the time....

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

Sometimes a spoon full of uppercut is just what the doctor ordered.

 

[Haya.H]

Hell, i'm a female and if I acted like that I sure as hell deserved whatever is coming. If you want to be treated like a lady, act like one.
She was all in his face spitting, slapping and whatever else we didn't see on vid. He snapped, normal reaction from either male or female. I DO NOT see why people always stick up for woman who act like that just because it's a man hitting them. If it we're a women would it be any less wrong or any worse? You wanted a fight, you got that. Simple! Next time I suggest she keep her obnoxious manly behavior behind, she may not know who shes messing with. And frankly I find her lucky... She got punched if that had been a crazy person with a weapon she woulda been screwed.

 

[jake337]

If I had to defend myself I would defend myself from man or woman.

I don't understand how it is an insult to a woman that if she hits me I am unwilling to hit her back. How is that an insult?

If the rider had been a man the drivers actions were still wrong. You want to fight someone call them out and fight them fair and square. Suckerpunching someone is cowardly.

It seemed to me like the rider wasn't really threatening the bus driver once he stopped the bus. So why not exit the bus and call the police?

It is an insult to all the woman who have fought for equality for so many years.


If one wants true equality it can have no loopholes....