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JAC526, this is the double standard. Watch closely. This woman kept beating her man. This is the original footage. Guess how long she served, 4 months. If she was a man her sentence would have been YEARS.

Riverline Fight - YouTube


I don't condone men just hitting women. But if you put your hands on someone you opened the pot, don't be shocked when you get burned. I commend you JAC526 for still having those views in this world. It is the right thing to do if that's your nature. What I won't do though is fault someone for a action that was provoked.
 
JAC526, this is the double standard. Watch closely. This woman kept beating her man. This is the original footage. Guess how long she served, 4 months. If she was a man her sentence would have been YEARS.

Riverline Fight - YouTube


I don't condone men just hitting women. But if you put your hands on someone you opened the pot, don't be shocked when you get burned. I commend you JAC526 for still having those views in this world. It is the right thing to do if that's your nature. What I won't do though is fault someone for a action that was provoked.

I do fault him. For caving to impulse. I'm saying he made a mistake. That is much different than condoning his actions because he was provoked.

Honestly, I could probably find some video where a man beat a women and got less than a year of actual prison time. Hell, child molesters routinely serve less than 5 years.

Your metric sucks for proving a double standard. I'm not even trying to debate with you whether a double standard exists. I know it does and furthermore I think its right.

But that is my opinion. And as the saying goes opinions are like *******s.
 
JAC526, this is the double standard. Watch closely. This woman kept beating her man. This is the original footage. Guess how long she served, 4 months. If she was a man her sentence would have been YEARS.

Riverline Fight - YouTube


I don't condone men just hitting women. But if you put your hands on someone you opened the pot, don't be shocked when you get burned. I commend you JAC526 for still having those views in this world. It is the right thing to do if that's your nature. What I won't do though is fault someone for a action that was provoked.

Wow...THAT kind of physical violence, with the woman inflicting MULTIPLE kicks to the head on a seated man, in public, in front of witnesses--who were videotaping!!!!, + verbal abuse against a man who just stood there and took it over and over and over...wow...DOUBLE STANDARD is right...if that had been a male kicking a woman or kid in the head like that, and punching another person 40-50 times...a male would have been sentenced to YEARS in prison--easily a 3-year sentence...almost anywhere in the USA...
 
Can I ask......why didn't he get up? Really, why?
 
I didn't watch the video but the OP point in that post was that she only got 4 months.

My response to that is this isn't b/c of some gender double standard but b/c the justice system can just suck sometimes.

There are others who commit heinous crimes that have nothing to do with a gender double standard who receive sentences that are considered much too short.
 
I do fault him. For caving to impulse. I'm saying he made a mistake. That is much different than condoning his actions because he was provoked.

Honestly, I could probably find some video where a man beat a women and got less than a year of actual prison time. Hell, child molesters routinely serve less than 5 years.

Your metric sucks for proving a double standard. I'm not even trying to debate with you whether a double standard exists. I know it does and furthermore I think its right.

But that is my opinion. And as the saying goes opinions are like *******s.

That video was to show you what happens when you do nothing.
 
Can I ask......why didn't he get up? Really, why?


Mish he did and where ever he went she followed. The girl that took the video said she even pushed him on the train tracks before the train even came. I wouldn't have got on the train with her. I would have pretended to get on the train and right before the doors closed ran out.
 
I do fault him. For caving to impulse. I'm saying he made a mistake. That is much different than condoning his actions because he was provoked.

Honestly, I could probably find some video where a man beat a women and got less than a year of actual prison time. Hell, child molesters routinely serve less than 5 years.

Your metric sucks for proving a double standard. I'm not even trying to debate with you whether a double standard exists. I know it does and furthermore I think its right.

But that is my opinion. And as the saying goes opinions are like *******s.

That video was to show you what happens when you do nothing.

I think you misunderstand my view somewhat. I am all for defending oneself. That is not my issue. But the man on the bus was not defending himself. He was in no danger.
 
I think you misunderstand my view somewhat. I am all for defending oneself. That is not my issue. But the man on the bus was not defending himself. He was in no danger.

I understood your point of view. My point is, you put your hands on someone don't be surprised if the outcome is not what you expected.

You believe in a man doing the right thing and the right thing for a man when he is hit is to not retaliate or/and unless he's in danger. That's the norm.

Both videos are filled with the way society teaches us how to respond. Its many double standards. Times are changing and people are not accepting of that excusable behavior anymore. That's all I'm trying to say.

Did you notice how quick everyone ran to the girls aid when she was hit. When the bus driver was hit only the man at the front of the bus attempted to intervene. No one held her back and told her no, don't hit him he's a old man.

See the train line incident. No one came to the mans aid because he was a man. Double standard. He's a man so he can take it.

You said you don't understand how educated people would be ok with this situation. The reason most are is because equality for all is taking effect. Keep your hands to yourself. Simple.
 
JAC526 said:
I think you misunderstand my view somewhat. I am all for defending oneself. That is not my issue. But the man on the bus was not defending himself. He was in no danger.

But I'll bet she doesn't bully anymore bus drivers. Lol
 
Can I ask......why didn't he get up? Really, why?

Yeah. Let's blame the victim!!! He was asking for it.
lol Yep, that's what I was doing, blaming the victim. Derrel, please tell me you wouldn't just sit there like that.
But I'll bet she doesn't bully anymore bus drivers. Lol
Oh, I think she'll mouth off again. She got up after the first beat down and started at it again.
 
I think you misunderstand my view somewhat. I am all for defending oneself. That is not my issue. But the man on the bus was not defending himself. He was in no danger.

I understood your point of view. My point is, you put your hands on someone don't be surprised if the outcome is not what you expected.

You believe in a man doing the right thing and the right thing for a man when he is hit is to not retaliate or/and unless he's in danger. That's the norm.

Both videos are filled with the way society teaches us how to respond. Its many double standards. Times are changing and people are not accepting of that excusable behavior anymore. That's all I'm trying to say.

Did you notice how quick everyone ran to the girls aid when she was hit. When the bus driver was hit only the man at the front of the bus attempted to intervene. No one held her back and told her no, don't hit him he's a old man.

See the train line incident. No one came to the mans aid because he was a man. Double standard. He's a man so he can take it.

You said you don't understand how educated people would be ok with this situation. The reason most are is because equality for all is taking effect. Keep your hands to yourself. Simple.

You make a very valid argument.

Thanks for the civil debate.
 
JAC526 said:
I think you misunderstand my view somewhat. I am all for defending oneself. That is not my issue. But the man on the bus was not defending himself. He was in no danger.

But I'll bet she doesn't bully anymore bus drivers. Lol

Don't underestimate the power of stupidity.
 
She should have bypassed all the taunting and erratic behavior and just asked for an uppercut. The YouTube clip could have been much shorter and much more violent.

What is this world coming to? If you're going to be a dick and want to get fist pounded in the jaw, just ask for it outright. Don't draw it out like some Hemingway novel. Jeeze.
 

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