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Hey Everyone,

WOW I have been gone for too long! I have missed you all, but I have been crazy busy taking pictures and learning more and more. With that being said, ny neice Shy wanted to honor my husband and I by doing a Military type photo shoot,(she is practicing to be a model) she is young (14) and I have permission to post the photos.

My settings ISO 400, F2.8
I was using only a speedlight for lighting...
**these were loaded from facebook to flickr then put on here, they look SO Grainy! but they dont look so grainy in real life...

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So...back to the regularly scheduled program....my fav is #3. I don't find the photos objectionable as others do, and you would know as a member of the services what would be inappropriate. If you feel strongly that these are in-bounds then that should be good enough for your conscience, but don't leave because of the dischord.
 
Holding something tightly close to your heart gives off a warm feeling from this image.

For starters, your heart is on the left side of your body, not your right. I see the flag being treated as a piece of laundry, like a towel or something. Or a bag of trash.

For starters, your heart is in the middle of your chest...angled towards the left. For followers, crossed hands across your chest are a symbol of love, no matter how many millimeters away from the center they are. When did laundry become a bad thing? Or a towel?

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Holding something tightly close to your heart gives off a warm feeling from this image.

For starters, your heart is on the left side of your body, not your right. I see the flag being treated as a piece of laundry, like a towel or something. Or a bag of trash.


For starters, your heart is in the middle of your chest...angled towards the left. For followers, crossed hands across your chest are a symbol of love, no matter how many millimeters away from the center they are. When did laundry become a bad thing? Or a towel?

Anatomically? Sure, the heart is closer to the center of the chest.

When talking about symbolism and your hand over your heart?

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Before I got out, I was a part of honor guard for veteran funerals. I promise you the flag was never draped over my shoulder.

When did laundry become a bad thing? Or a towel?
I'm just trying to explain why some may take it offensively. Some people do not look at the flag in such a casual manner. In my command, if the flag touched the ground for any reason, an individual would receive some sort of informal counseling. Everytime the flag was brought out from it's box, it was handled ceremoniously, and I mean every time.
 
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Honestly I find the pictures highly offensive because she is 14 and clearing attempting to be sexy. Personally this does not honor your husband. I find it uncomfortable and bizarre. Are you a parent? Has her mother seen these what did she have to say? What message are you attempting to send your husband? I don't know but I certainly not finding these patriotic.
 
OMG, are you all really serious? It's not like she's under dressed or even suggestive. It's not like the flag is being disrespected intentionally. I don't care for the shots but they're certainly not offensive. Jeesh!!
 
Perhaps I am over reacting but the first one is quite suggestive if you ask me. Number 3 is the most innocent.
Really that is not how I would want a child posing for a photo to my husband. Shes a kid have her looking like one with a smile, not a smirk with her running her hands through her hair. It makes no sense. And I am sure she wants to be "pretty" but the photographer should understand when working with minors...teenage minors...you have to walk a line. And I feel the first photo crosses it. I still can't understand what she is trying to convey with that expression. I'm sorry.
 
Maybe you identified the subliminal issues with overall personal impressions....
 
The 3rd photo looks like a loving embrace, not like its being draped like a tea towel.

I love the photos, well the idea of em. They do look grainy and orangish.

But I like the idea.
 
I think that you set out to do really great pictures, but they just didn't turn out that way. It's just like Tyra Banks always tells her models, (lol) it's not always about being sexy. Some girls just happen to come off that way in pictures, rather they mean to or not. There is a fine line between pretty and sexy, and the middle ground is just hard to find sometimes. I think that's what the problem is here. You guys didn't mean for things to come off as so sensual, but to some other people it's just BAM HEY there's a girl giving me a SEX FACE. For one, she does NOT look 14. She looks much older, she's wearing much more make up than I ever wore when I was that age, (even if I was in a photo shoot), and it is dark make up. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just makes her appear older and thus more of a sex-object.

If I were going to photograph a 14 year old girl my first thoughts would have been "cutesy" all the way. A lot less make up, perhaps none at all, maybe some pink nail polish, flowers, et cetera. Perhaps not even wear the uniform, but have a Flag dress instead? Or perhaps had a sun-dress, and wore the uniform over that. Something more cutesy.

However, I do understand if you were trying to make her appear older and whatever... Today's world is quite frightening in that aspect, and I'm afraid for humanity.
 
Just FYI. Her mother loved them. The sexy look that is just shy. Her personality do I like it as her aunt no... Her idea for the pics were modern pin up. We missed the mark no doubt.
 
Modern pin up w/ a 14 year old?
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BTW....I don't find the pictures offensive, but I would of been if you would of hit the mark on your pin ups. lol
 
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Boxhousev said:
Honestly I find the pictures highly offensive because she is 14 and clearing attempting to be sexy. Personally this does not honor your husband. I find it uncomfortable and bizarre. Are you a parent? Has her mother seen these what did she have to say? What message are you attempting to send your husband? I don't know but I certainly not finding these patriotic.

Yes I am a parent and had my intent to do a half naked shoot with my 14 year neice then yes it would be wrong and uncomfortable for others. The pictures were not for my husband.
 

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