Just started my photography Biz need C&C PLEASE!

[Joey_Ricard]

Elizabeth, I'm glad you didn't get scared off - I'm new to this board, but not new to photography boards. They are all very similar and every board has it's characters. While No, the pics you chose to post were not indicative of a professional portrait photographer, maybe people could have been a little less sarcastic in the responses.

ALTHOUGH, I will say that some of the comments made me laugh. Kind of like when you laugh at someone for something they can't help, but they never know you laughed.

Ok, so, I would suggest now that you have thickened your skin a little and can banter right back, keep at it. Keep at the learning that is, shooting, processing and gaining the all important skills + experience. Just remember, this is the internet and anything you post is subject to comment and criticism but don't let that stop you from posting images. That's a good way to learn, even when you throw yourself to the wolves.

 

[jake337]

ok but the best bokeh I have seen is with the largest aperture.... ??? am 'i wrong??

That is DoF, not bokeh.

Before you do anything else - go read this; Understanding Depth of Field in Photography

let me rephrase, you get "more" bokeh with larger aperture, but I am now understanding that is not always the best option for a good photo that has bokeh. I'm thinking I've been loosing a lot of clairity in my photos from not really understanding how to use good DoF and Aperture settings.

No, each lens has a specific "Bokeh" characteristic of it's own. Blurry backgrounds are achieved by understanding DOF and either using a shallow DOF or positioning your subject in a way that your subject to background distance is much larger.

 

[gsgary]

Beautiful pictures. Can I hire you for my million dollar campaign?


When is the date of the end of these incredible threads?

This could last as long as any of Sabrina's used to

 

[c.cloudwalker]

Beautiful pictures. Can I hire you for my million dollar campaign?


When is the date of the end of these incredible threads?

ABSOLUTELY!! Just make sure you have a bag big enough to carry all that sarcasm.

Very nice response.

If I wasn't 1/ on the wrong continent and 2/ getting out of the business, I would most definitely give you an interview for a position as an assistant.

I would rather have people working for me who don't know shoot about photography when they start (I can teach you, and teach you my ways easily enough) but are willing to kick me in the rear-end...

You don't know much as of now but if you don't let the idiots wear you down, you could learn. Go for it.

 

[c.cloudwalker]

By the way, everybody who is bashing you for this amazingly stupid thread is quite right. Your photos (the ones you showed, anyway) are quite bad.

You've got a lot to learn. But you've got spunk!

 

[pgriz]

Hi Elizabeth - welcome to the forum. If you are really interested in starting a business, then this thread may be of interest: http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/general-shop-talk/266193-noobs-guide-starting-business.html. Your reception was not very surprising, as you are not the first to announce that you're "in business" before you really know what you're doing. There are many threads (including quite a few locked ones) documenting people announcing themselves, then showing how they are NOT ready for running a professional business. There are also several others who did go "pro", and viewing their posts and web-sites usually make it clear why they could do so. The thing about photography is that "professional" results require a very good understanding of lighting, and most amateur photographers have not learned that aspect. Certainly, knowing the material partly described by this thread http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...rum-photo-gallery/123160-tutorial-thread.html, will help, but it will still not be sufficient. And after you get the experience, having the right equipment will make the difference between good results and great results.

As for people being rude, well it's the internet. There are some who don't know better (these you can ignore), and then there are some who know very well what it takes to be considered a professional (and these you should be really paying close attention to, even if their comments hurt).

 

[KmH]

let me rephrase, you get "more" bokeh with larger aperture,

I'll repeat. CoC, or bokeh....... is not adjustable.

It is a static, inherent property of the lens constuction.

You are referring to Depth-Of-Field, or DoF, which is what you are actually adjusting when you change the lens aperture.

DoF is also controlled by some other factors: the lens focal length, the image sensor to focus point distance. the image sensor size, the distance the background is from the point of focus.
He is an illustration I made a couple of weeks ago:

 

[sm4him]

Beautiful pictures. Can I hire you for my million dollar campaign?


When is the date of the end of these incredible threads?

ABSOLUTELY!! Just make sure you have a bag big enough to carry all that sarcasm.

Elizabeth30...I'm startin' to like you. You've made a nice recovery.

 

[Elizabeth30]

Ok, So my first day of learning forever and I read ALL of your responses and checked out some of the links, read a few articles and watched a few tutorials and here's is my result.... gonna be brave and post another photo. I just went outside and took about 160 photos with my new learned knowledge for today and already I see a difference. may not be a huge difference but it is a difference. So here it goes, bring on the sarcasm!

 

[cgipson1]

nice shot... but a trifle more DOF (smaller aperture) and her other eye would still be in focus, which is a style I prefer... others may not!

Cropping... dont chop heads and chins if you can help it.. even for a really tight shot.. and vertical format would be preferred here usually!

 

[Elizabeth30]

Beautiful pictures. Can I hire you for my million dollar campaign?


When is the date of the end of these incredible threads?

ABSOLUTELY!! Just make sure you have a bag big enough to carry all that sarcasm.

Elizabeth30...I'm startin' to like you. You've made a nice recovery.

I just might stick around for a while

 

[Elizabeth30]

Hi Elizabeth - welcome to the forum. If you are really interested in starting a business, then this thread may be of interest: http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/general-shop-talk/266193-noobs-guide-starting-business.html. Your reception was not very surprising, as you are not the first to announce that you're "in business" before you really know what you're doing. There are many threads (including quite a few locked ones) documenting people announcing themselves, then showing how they are NOT ready for running a professional business. There are also several others who did go "pro", and viewing their posts and web-sites usually make it clear why they could do so. The thing about photography is that "professional" results require a very good understanding of lighting, and most amateur photographers have not learned that aspect. Certainly, knowing the material partly described by this thread http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...rum-photo-gallery/123160-tutorial-thread.html, will help, but it will still not be sufficient. And after you get the experience, having the right equipment will make the difference between good results and great results.

As for people being rude, well it's the internet. There are some who don't know better (these you can ignore), and then there are some who know very well what it takes to be considered a professional (and these you should be really paying close attention to, even if their comments hurt).

Thanks! It's nice to hear this. Although I don't know what I expected coming in here but I was not prepared for all the negative. I guess I was thinking I would hear more things like "that's a good start" or a little more encouragement. Oh well though, I can't sit around waiting for a hug, I gotta keep moving forward and I intend to.

 

[SCraig]

nice shot... but a trifle more DOF (smaller aperture) and her other eye would still be in focus, which is a style I prefer... others may not!

Cropping... dont chop heads and chins if you can help it.. even for a really tight shot.. and vertical format would be preferred here usually!

What he said. The whole thing looks a bit soft to me except for her right eye. I'd also recommend some fill flash so her face doesn't look so shadowed. The color correction is MUCH better than the previous shots.

 

[tirediron]

nice shot... but a trifle more DOF (smaller aperture) and her other eye would still be in focus, which is a style I prefer... others may not!

Cropping... dont chop heads and chins if you can help it.. even for a really tight shot.. and vertical format would be preferred here usually!

Excellent points. In addition, I will add that this really needs some supplemental light camera right.

 

[Elizabeth30]

nice shot... but a trifle more DOF (smaller aperture) and her other eye would still be in focus, which is a style I prefer... others may not!

Cropping... dont chop heads and chins if you can help it.. even for a really tight shot.. and vertical format would be preferred here usually!

What he said. The whole thing looks a bit soft to me except for her right eye. I'd also recommend some fill flash so her face doesn't look so shadowed. The color correction is MUCH better than the previous shots.

Yea, with all the comments about my color in the other photos I opted to NOT do any editing on this. So maybe I should have force flashed this?