I have been lurking on this forum for a weeks now and have been looking elsewhere and have learned a lot. I've always been interested in photography but paintball, my other hobby sucked up ALL of my money. I've decided its time to sell most of my paintball gear and get into photography finally. I have a lot more paintball gear that I dont need anyway. ha I am looking into two different Nikon d80 packages. One includes an 18-50 lens and a 55-200 lens. The other for $40 more includes an 18-135 lens. I will be using this camera just bout anywhere I go, to take photos of paintball, racing, soccer, baseball, biking, skating, nature hikes in the mountains, swamps, and old buildings/barns/warehouses, that are out around here. Pretty much everything but taking great pictures of sports is I guess my top priority. I've read reviews on the 18-50 and it sounds like a GREAT lens but without VR the 55-200 lens will be harder to take pictures with at 200mm. The 18-135 could be an all-in-one until I go for more lenses but I would think I may need that extra 65mm? What sounds like a better deal?