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Lighting? What to buy.

What bulbs? Mount your SB600 on the bracket?
im gonna play dumb here...

lol how would i make the flash go off? do i not need other equipment? its ok that there wont be a flash on the hotshoe of my camera (noob)? what about 2 umbrellas? did you see the lights that came with that package? are they doable? thanks!
 
I wouldn't buy that package because it's continuous lighting. Buy a wired/wireless trigger, mount it on your camera and the other receiver under your light, mount that on the bracket and fire that into the umbrella.
 
I suppose if something is reasonable and effective i will get it. I have no experience with lighting so starting off cheap was ideal. i saw some starter kits on amazon. Just not sure if they are good.

I have been using a cheap, 3 light kit I got off ebay. $250-$300 for 3x250 watt strobes, wireless trigger, 2 softboxes, 2 silver umbrellas, 3 stands, 3 gels, grid, barn doors. I use it at least 3 times a week and I have shot some huge events without issues (by huge, I mean 200+ couples in one evening). I have had it for over a year and it is still going strong. That whole kit is cheaper than one of my speedlights so I won't be too put out if I have to replace a bulb, or even a lamp. Here's a recent shot using two of the lights and a reflector.

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We need a budget dammit.

I could recommend the 4 Alien Bee kit. It's four 320w/s monolights with pretty much everything you need. It would run you about $1600 plus the cost of triggers.
 
Exactly, The OP wanted something cheap, he has money to blow but to a certain extent. As a started I would go for a cheap stand and umbrella, get a better bracket and trigger.
 
Ok lets say the budget is up to 300. I have to have separate money to pursue my photography hobby at this point. That’s what the wifey says. Ill post pics of what I have done recently with just the sb-600.


EDIT:im at work (school) so fb is blocked. internet is being slow. ill try and get these up.
 
Alright if that's your budget head on over to ebay. I would get 2 $15 umbrellas, nothing fancy it's just an umbrella, then about $30 on 2 stands, then go for the better brackets, you'll know them when you see them. Then last but not least head for some Cactus triggers, wireless and a dream (so i've heard). With the remaining cash I would see if you could score a cheap vivitar, or Lumo flash. Then you got 2 light setup to begin with.
 
Alright if that's your budget head on over to ebay. I would get .......
Wait, wait, wait......

:confused: Have you even received your entry level lighting kit yet Bram? I mean, just this week, you are still asking the forum members which trigger, umbrella and such. Even if you have, you wouldn't have had enough practical time to make a sound judgement of your gear. Where are you drawing upon this knowledge to make a recommendation?
 
Reasearch? No i'm not a professional, No I havn't had years of experience with this stuff. If the OP has a quesion, regardless of what it is, I am going to do my best to answer that question. If the OP (again regardless of the question) asks for a recommendation, I am going to answer to the best of my ability.
So Kundalini, by the reply you just made, do you have an issue with me recommending or answering to the best of my ability?
 
Reasearch? No i'm not a professional, No I havn't had years of experience with this stuff. If the OP has a quesion, regardless of what it is, I am going to do my best to answer that question. If the OP (again regardless of the question) asks for a recommendation, I am going to answer to the best of my ability.
So Kundalini, by the reply you just made, do you have an issue with me recommending or answering to the best of my ability?

Not at all, but there should be a disclaimer about what exactly your ability, or lack there of, is.
 
My ability is shown on my flickr. AGAIN, not a professional, i'm a 19 year old who loves photography and thinks that he knows a little about every aspect, not enough to post about all of it. I'd say enough to get a start. Still learning like everybody else on this forum. Just trying to help the Op out.
 
Alright if that's your budget head on over to ebay. I would get 2 $15 umbrellas, nothing fancy it's just an umbrella,

Shoot through or silver reflective? Just silver, or white with a black/silver backing? just an umbrella is cheap and tends to fall apart. What size? Why? Why not larger or smaller? Why not an umbrella and a different type of modifier? I mean they just want to overexpose the background, why do they need an umbrella to make a flash do thatt?

then about $30 on 2 stands,

Cheap stands don't last. Even cheaper stands are just crap.

then go for the better brackets, you'll know them when you see them.

Would you know them if you saw them?

Then last but not least head for some Cactus triggers, wireless and a dream (so i've heard).

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With the remaining cash I would see if you could score a cheap vivitar, or Lumo flash. Then you got 2 light setup to begin with.

Maybe the only good recommendation. Why would you go with a Vivitar over a lumopro or the other way around? What features to each of them have that make them worth the price?

B&H prices may have changed a bit, but this is what I remember.

Air cushioned 9' impact stands $30 x 2 = $60
Impact umbrella adapters $15 x 2 = $30
Westcott 43" umbrellas $20 x 2 = $20
Lumopro LP160 flash (mpex.com) $160

That's $270, not including triggers. Impact is B&H's in house brand. It's not top of the line by far. The air cushioned stands should last you if you're careful with them, but I have 1 out of 3 that still works and that's being generous.

The umbrella adapters come with a cold shoe for the flash and will hold your umbrellas. There's not much too them, the several ones I have from when I first started still function perfectly.

The 43" westcotts are cheap and they're basically throw aways, but they'll server you well for now. I'd recommend a shoot through and a silver reflective umbrella so that you have options. You're not going to want to use an umbrella for the back wall, but like I said, two different ones gives you options.

The Lumopro LP160 is as powerful as a lot of high end first party speedlights. It has an optical slave, a pc sync port, and a miniphone port. It tilts and swivels. It's power level has a greater range of adjustability vs. the Vivitar 285HV, which only has a tilt feature. It's a better flash over all and MPEX is a great company to deal with.

The last choice is triggers. There's a large range of e-bay triggers, like the Cowboy Studio triggers, the Cactus triggers, and others. When they were first released, they weren't the most reliable, but they've gotten better. If you're planning on sticking with this, you may want to look at something more reliable. The cheapest brand that I could recommend as an absolutely reliable brand would be the Paul C Buff Cyber Syncs. PCB and Alien Bees are the same company. It will cost you about about $200 for two receivers and a transmitter. E-bay triggers will be fine if you're experiementing, but if you're having misfires or other wierd problems, then you know what to expect. Although, some people I know have had amazing luck with them. It seems like it's hit or miss. As for calling them a dream, that made me laugh.
 
Thanks for making me look like an idiot? I don't have all the time in the world to post such an elaborate reply as yourself. Sorry for the incovenience. Also, sorry to the OP appearantly you should disregard evrything I have said.
 

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