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TheStupidForeigner

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My laptop just died at the time possible as I just moved apartments :( So I'm trying to get something to edit photos on for as cheap as possible, as in €100-200 :/ I am already thinking my only options would be a second hand desktop. But my main question is, what is more important; RAM or CPU? And what should I aim for on this kind of budget?

I don't care much about photo upload/export times, just want the develop module to run fairly smoothly. Also I'm still a beginner at the moment and not editing 100s of photos every day, so doesn't need to be perfect, but good as can be for the money.

Any suggestions?
 
You can typically increase your RAM by swapping chips to a greater amount of memory. This will almost always result in an increase in operational speed. The computer should have the ability to do so. If your budget is tight, look for a computer which can be upgraded at a later date.

Does that help? Or, am I missing something in your question?
 
No it is good advice, I agree. Am also thinking something like this, but what should I get to start of with? Basically, what are the minimum specs to have a comfortable develop mode? I don't trust what adobe say... I think 4gb should be enough (for now), but what do you think? And how about CPU? I believe CPU and RAM should be matched or the better of the two would be wasted (and there is little room for waste on my budget)
 
My experience says the more memory, the better. The CPU doesn't need lots of other programs and systems. And more features are generally what you gain as you increase your price range in computers. Better, IMO, to add that memory chip to a less feature oriented computer than the other way around. In fact, the more "stuff" on the computer when the amount of memory remains constant, the slower it will run for every program as there are numerous "silent" processing systems running invisibly behind everything you do on the computer.

When the budget allows, it's a good idea to have a dedicated computer just for your photographic work, That way you can go into the computer and delete or shut down a lot of the background programs not related to photographic work. And, of course, having a back up hard drive which stores and holds your library is always a good idea. Get the old stuff off your computer's drive and your computer won't constantly be looking at that stuff, protecting and storing that stuff and slowing down the data you are working on at the moment. You could also consider just having the external drive and having your photos and processing completely on that drive. Access through your computer is possible though typically a noticeable amount slower than having that available RAM. External drives are increasingly less expensive today than they were two years ago. It's a good way to work though when you can place the unneeded files on another drive which is simply a click or two away.

The amount of memory your system and its programs require is sort of like having a larger amperage service panel on your home's incoming electrical system. The system won't be stressed in normal usage but, when current is required, it's there and your chances of shutting down the entire circuit are reduced if not eliminated. The more memory you have available, the less your chances you will shut down the system while using the system.

With more RAM available, the system runs more like a car on the down side of a hill and it can cruise easily and efficiently. If you ignore the minimum requirements of a program, it becomes just the opposite. Now, it will be more like trying to tow your 24' boat uphill with a low end Honda Civic with the air conditioning system running. It may eventually work, but you'll constantly be stressing the system and probably shutting down several times as the system sees that larger than can be accommodated "power" draw. So the more, the better, as long as it's high quality power or memory. It won't be called on unless the system requires it.

If you ignore the advice of the various programs you'll use, you'll be running slowly at all times and probably shutting down more frequently than you'd prefer. Ideally, what you choose should be a computer you can later turn into a dedicated system just for your photo work. No internet access, no emails or social media and no unneeded back up programs. If that's not in the budget, then you at least need the ability to increase the available memory as high as possible whether that's by way of adding one or two chips at a later date.

Which operating system you pick is up to your other needs for a computer. With the increasing number of folks using their phone's camera the number of apps for any system has increased. There are freeware programs which do quite well for the basics of post production. And there are highly sophisticated apps which will take up lots of space on your computer when what you need are just the basics. You really need to lay out your priorities and understand the issue of diminishing returns (higher cost does not provide equal amounts of improvements) before you head out to shop. Of course, most smaller shops tend to have a more interested and informed sales staff while most big box stores have the widest selection.

Unfortunately, that's about the extent I can supply you when it comes to picking the right computer for your needs. But I would really hesitate suggesting, and cannot advise in favor of, you ignore the minimum "suggested" requirements of any program.
 
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How about numbers? I am thinking at least 4gb ram, if I can get more that would be better, otherwise will make do till I can upgrade. But not sure about minimum CPU I should have?

As I know lightroom doesn't use the gpu much so am not paying much attention to it as I don't play games either.
 
4G should get the job done. And, of course, if you can add more later, that would be good though your price range for a laptop is about the point where 4G is the max available.

Remove any programs you don't use. I can't direct you to any specific site which gives suggestions for making a computer more efficient when dealing with image processing. I would think you can find a few suggestions by using a search engine. They'll mostly guide you in deleting or minimizing the invisible operations which interfere with a creative program like Lightroom. Overall, make sure you have the correct hookups for the work you'll do. USB 2.0 is slower than 3.0 and USB is slower than, say, Firewire. Cost seems to dictate the inclusion of faster connections though and you'll likely get what you can afford. Make sure you can adjust your monitor for the correct profile.
 
How would a Pentium4 3.2ghz with 4gb ddr ram hold up?

Btw I plan to set up a separate partition on the harddrive with windows 7 just for lightroom, photoshop and nothing else.
 
How would a Pentium4 3.2ghz with 4gb ddr ram hold up?

Btw I plan to set up a separate partition on the harddrive with windows 7 just for lightroom, photoshop and nothing else.



On paper, that should be fine. The recommendation is for 8G which means the data heavy image processing and video systems will run slightly slower with 4G. Twice as much available memory doesn't mean twice as fast in the operation. It's a bit more like having one 60 watt lamp going and adding another 60 watt lamp. The overall brightness levels increase very little with the doubled wattage/lumens output. With the dual core system, unless you are really loading in the number of images you want to open all at once, you're more than likely not going to notice a significant difference with the 4G to begin with. If the memory can be updated at a later date, the more the better. If the system meets your other needs, then you're on the right track.

Do investigate the 64 bit system requirement. Manufacturers are shying away from supporting anything less than 64 bit in the coming future due to the requirements of modern day processing systems. You don't want to buy a 32 bit system only to find out you have no programs to suit it in a year's time.
 

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