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Trying to get a better understanding of metering. Often hear "meter off the sky" or "meter off the hand". I'm trying to understand how this is accomplished? Example - I have my camera set to "spot" metering, and I point the camera to the sky - Is the goal to press the shutter halfway, and adjust aperture/shutter speed/iso until exposure is balanced? I guess the key is understanding what part of the photo you want exposed correctly, I'm simply challenged in understanding what gives you the meter reading. Do you meter in manual mode or in Shutter/Aperture Priority?

Do you prefer spot or matrix metering? Is there one the gives better results over the other?

Thanks for the help!

KmH - your links always help... I'm open to suggestions!
 
Trying to get a better understanding of metering. Often hear "meter off the sky" or "meter off the hand". I'm trying to understand how this is accomplished? Example - I have my camera set to "spot" metering, and I point the camera to the sky - Is the goal to press the shutter halfway, and adjust aperture/shutter speed/iso until exposure is balanced? I guess the key is understanding what part of the photo you want exposed correctly, I'm simply challenged in understanding what gives you the meter reading. Do you meter in manual mode or in Shutter/Aperture Priority?

Do you prefer spot or matrix metering? Is there one the gives better results over the other?

Thanks for the help!

KmH - your links always help... I'm open to suggestions!

First tip.... pick up the book Understanding Exposure by Brian Peterson. Awesome read.

You have the basic understanding. You meter a scene (regardless of which mode) and in M (Manual) set the ISO, aperture and shutter to where you want them to get the desired exposure (which is usually in the middle). If you are in aperture (AV for Canon) or shutter (TV for Canon), then you are only controlling either the aperture or the shutter to get a well exposure (ie middle of the meter) image.

Ex: Lets say your are set in Manual mode, aperture f/5.6 and 1/200 shutter. You half press the shutter, the camera takes a meter reading. If the line is to the left of the meter, you are under exposed. So you have to let more light in to get a well exposed image. You can either open the aperture more (f/4.0, f/2.8,..) or slow the shutter down (1/100, 1/60,...). You have full control. If you know that you MUST stay at aperture f/5.6, then you adjust the shutter only.

Ex: Lets say you are in AV (aperture) mode. You have the aperture set to f/5.6. You half press the shutter and the meter reading will have the line in the middle and display the proper shutter speed for you to get a well exposed image. Say it gives 1/60. If you were to click, image well exposed. If however you want an aperture of f/11, you adjust the aperture, half click again, your shutter will now read 1/15. This might be a bit too slow for you. This is where ISO can come into play. If you must have f/11 and you are at 1/15 and say ISO 100, you can up the ISO to 400, which will give you 2 more stops of light... so your shutter is back up to 1/60. Why not always shoot high ISO? High ISO creates noise in the image. Not all cameras are good at handling noise. ISO 800 should be fine in most modern day cameras. But if you want to get no noise at ISO 3200 or 6400, you are looking at the full frame cameras (Canon 5D2, Nikon D700).

The logic is to normally keep your ISO low, adjust shutter and aperture, and when you have to, up the ISO.

Hope that's making sense.

For the various modes you can meter, depends on what you are looking to do. Alot of people stay in the Matrix or Evaluative metering. Why? This takes into account the entire scene to give you the meter reading to let you know if you are well exposed or not. In some cases, where the light can vary greatly, you may want to use spot metering. This means that the meter reading will be taken around that one little spot. So you can point the camera at what you want nicely exposed, half press, it gives a reading. You adjust your settings according. Then you can recompose the image and shoot and that part you spot metered on will be well exposed.

My day to day (these days) is alot of concert photography. When I shoot a low light shot, I use spot metering. I put the spot on the singers face and always ensure that the face is well exposed. The rest? What ever happens happens, light changes constantly. If I were to do a Matrix or Evaluative metering, it would look at the whole scene, which the vast majority is dark, and give me a weirdly exposed image.

I also shoot in Manual mode only. Again, with the changing lights, if I was in AV set to f/2.8, for one shot, the shutter may be 1/1000 and for the next 1/15. No control. 1/15 will have way too much blur. In manual, I can set for the right exposed (based on the singer's face) and have consistent results in my images.
 
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My head might just explode with all the knowledge I've accumalated on TPF today!!!
 
Please warn ahead of time, I'll look away from my monitor to avoid the splash
 
Wow - I actually get it :) Appreciate the answers, and the book recommendation - I've seen it mentioned a number of times... maybe time to grab a copy. I ask about metering, as I'm finding that I often underexpose my photos.

One additional question comes to mind - does matrix metering capture everything I see in the viewfinder? With spot metering, is the "spot" the same as my AF point? Although my camera (D7000) has multiple AF options, I tend to choose a single focus point. Just not certain if the single focus point would also be the point that the spot meter reading is taken from?
 
Wow - I actually get it :) Appreciate the answers, and the book recommendation - I've seen it mentioned a number of times... maybe time to grab a copy. I ask about metering, as I'm finding that I often underexpose my photos.

One additional question comes to mind - does matrix metering capture everything I see in the viewfinder? With spot metering, is the "spot" the same as my AF point? Although my camera (D7000) has multiple AF options, I tend to choose a single focus point. Just not certain if the single focus point would also be the point that the spot meter reading is taken from?


Just added a note in the original post about ISO, sorry, missed that originally.

As for the D7000, I'm not sure, I dont own that camera. Read the manual to see. Typically, I believe the spot that is used is the center one. So if you move your focus point to 4 to the left, the meter reading is still from the center. I could be off, better to google or read.

I know with my 5D2, it's always the center one. But then, only the center one is the cross type sensitive point (unlike my 7D which is all 19), so I only use the center one :)

Now take the time to practice on basic things around the house.
 
Wow - I actually get it :) Appreciate the answers, and the book recommendation - I've seen it mentioned a number of times... maybe time to grab a copy. I ask about metering, as I'm finding that I often underexpose my photos.

One additional question comes to mind - does matrix metering capture everything I see in the viewfinder? With spot metering, is the "spot" the same as my AF point? Although my camera (D7000) has multiple AF options, I tend to choose a single focus point. Just not certain if the single focus point would also be the point that the spot meter reading is taken from?


I believe that matrix metering takes in all the light sources of the entire frame to make a median decision on exposure. while spot metering just meters that one spot in the middle of the frame. I think!
 
Matrix takes info from various light sources in the scene to make a decision as to what exposure to give. It's kind of like a smart metering. Although Automatic in a camera is also supposed to be smart ;)

Spot looks at that one point

Read through the manual, it should explain the different ones.
 
Thanks all! I'll put this advice to work tonight - hoping I can come up with some nice exposures WITHOUT cheating in LR ;) Don't even get me started on trying to cleaning up the noise on my "corrected" photos.
 
First tip.... pick up the book Understanding Exposure by Brian Peterson. Awesome read.

Can I just chime in with an big ol' "Amen!" on this one?

Based on posts in this forum and in others, I did get Peterson's books on both Exposure and Shutter Speed. They are great books that clearly explain the concepts, provide lots and lots of examples and he does a great job of repeating key concepts over and over again throughout the books. Reading those books have improved my knowledge of and confidence with my camera more in just a few short weeks than over a year of dinking around and experimenting.

In fact I just got done with some self-prescribed "homework" this afternoon. A series of what I call boring shots of stuff in my front yard that never-the-less prove I am able play in completely manual mode and still get the results I am after (most of the time anyway). :) And no... I won't bore anyone with them.

Anyway... the books are well worth their cost... which isn't much really.

~ Hoodat Whatzit
 
Can I ask a question... I too have just learned about metering etc. I have the canon rebel t2i and there are only 4 meter modes. It has evaluative metering, partial, spot and center-weighted average. What metering mode would I use to stop over exposing my skies. I had a previous thread with a young boy down at the beach and my sky was all white pretty much. What mode should i shoot in to correct that.

I tried practicing today but ran out of time and didn't get anywhere. Tomorrow I'll have more time to work on it. They'll be boring pics but I'll probably post to see if i'm doing it correctly. I have been saying for a week now I'm gonna go down and rent this book from the library! Well I just said screw it! and purchased it on Amazon. I figured it would be a useful book to keep around and Ive had A LOT of people tell me to get it! So I did! I also got understanding shutter speed too! Give me some extra reading while at work :)
 
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Spot metering on the D7000 works on the focus point you select in the view finder, so if you are composing a scene you can move the focus point where you need, then meter.
 
Your camera has a limited range as compared to your eyes.Take a classic vacation snapshot in a city. The top is the sky, the bottom a person smiling in the shade. Your eyes will see both well exposed, but you camera will not. Expose for the bright sky, the person will be dark. Expose for the person, the sky is blown.For extreme circumstances like that, this is where either graduated filters come in (think half a filter is nd, the other transparent). Put the dark part of the filter over the bright part of the scene to even out the exposure. Or, people will do an HDR image. High Dynamic Range. It consists of taking multiple exposures and blending them via software (photomatix, cs5, nik)
 

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