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wrong, had you critiqued them right off the bet, it would be welcomed criticism. Your comment just made you sound like a dick. I joined this site to learn how to take better pictures for my self, not for anyone else. So if I can improve how the photos look to me, that is all that matters in the end.


Are all the people in NJ as contradictory as you are? Cause you welcome criticism, but then say that it only matters what you like. If the only thing that matters is what you like...
THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE???
 
I'm not a privileged little college kid. I don't believe I'm a particularly arrogant artistic type. And I don't think I'm better than you or anyone else. I'm a 62 year-old man who has been shooting photographs and making an effort to improve as a photographer for well over 40 years. Your photos are ok. Just fine for the family album or facebook. They are well exposed for the most part and in focus. Let's be honest here... with today's cameras just about anyone can take a "good" picture. Also, there's not a person here on the forum who doesn't think there son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter is the cutest most photogenic human ever pose for the camera.

So, when you start out by stating that your kids are superphotogenic; especially your daughter whom you've never taken a bad picture of.. you better be able to deliver the goods.
I'm sure that your friends and family have told you that you are a fantastic photographer and your kids are sooooo cute. You won't get that here. If you want advice on how to improve a photo, or if you need technical advice and constructive criticism there are plenty of knowledgeable people here who would be happy to help you out.

The first photo I posted here when I joined was one I was very proud of. It didn't take very long for me to realize that, in the eyes of others on the forum, it could be improved upon. Ok. I've learned that this is a good place to get advice and to learn how to improve; it's not a good place to post pictures and sit back an wait for the pats on the back.
Praise for photos here is rare and hard-earned and certainly not based on whether you can pull off a good snapshot of a cute kid.
 
Here's what I see:

#1: playful pose is mildly interesting; missed focus on girl; vignette is gimmicky and distracting; heads are lost in the busy background; car and pillar distract.

#2: aagghh! over-saturated colours; harsh flash on boy's nose; weak, dead-center composition; plain expressions.

#3: girl's face is OOF; uninteresting expression; boy distracts; blown sky.

#4: Good. Dead center might actually work in this case; psychotic expression (sorry) holds my attention well, though rather uncomfortably; nice light. I would PP this in B&W and see how it works.

#5: harsh flash; distracting background elements; weak, uninteresting composition.

Frankly, #4 is the only one with any real strength. The rest feel like family snapshots that belong in a treasured family photo album.
 
Hey, who can help me out? How do I make that cool "popcorn" icon??? I WANNA' be the guy who posts it before Bitter Jeweler shows up!

oops - beat you to it! :p Just wrap the word popcorn between 2 colons. So, : popcorn : without the spaces.
 
I'm not a privileged little college kid. I don't believe I'm a particularly arrogant artistic type. And I don't think I'm better than you or anyone else. I'm a 62 year-old man who has been shooting photographs and making an effort to improve as a photographer for well over 40 years. Your photos are ok. Just fine for the family album or facebook. They are well exposed for the most part and in focus. Let's be honest here... with today's cameras just about anyone can take a "good" picture. Also, there's not a person here on the forum who doesn't think there son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter is the cutest most photogenic human ever pose for the camera.

So, when you start out by stating that your kids are superphotogenic; especially your daughter whom you've never taken a bad picture of.. you better be able to deliver the goods.
I'm sure that your friends and family have told you that you are a fantastic photographer and your kids are sooooo cute. You won't get that here. If you want advice on how to improve a photo, or if you need technical advice and constructive criticism there are plenty of knowledgeable people here who would be happy to help you out.

The first photo I posted here when I joined was one I was very proud of. It didn't take very long for me to realize that, in the eyes of others on the forum, it could be improved upon. Ok. I've learned that this is a good place to get advice and to learn how to improve; it's not a good place to post pictures and sit back an wait for the pats on the back.
Praise for photos here is rare and hard-earned and certainly not based on whether you can pull off a good snapshot of a cute kid.


Bravo sir! Bravo!
 
I understand feeling frustrated and annoyed that people in this forum are rude, they really are! But, they are also really helpful while being rude if that makes sense. When I 1st posted here, it was like a trainwreck. Photographers are extremely condescending judgemental people. I find this to be true for people online and in day to day life. I started photographing for a hobby, just something fun and artistic to do. I had no idea basically all other photographers are extremely catty. But I just try to roll with it and don't take it personally and certainly don't let it get you down or stop you! There's a lot to learn on this forum. I was almost chased off by the regulars but then I decided to stick it out and learn something from them. I have seen so much improvement in my photos from trying ideas and listening to tips from this site.

That said, I am not particularly fond of your photos but we all had to start somewhere right?
 
I'm not a privileged little college kid. I don't believe I'm a particularly arrogant artistic type. And I don't think I'm better than you or anyone else. I'm a 62 year-old man who has been shooting photographs and making an effort to improve as a photographer for well over 40 years. Your photos are ok. Just fine for the family album or facebook. They are well exposed for the most part and in focus. Let's be honest here... with today's cameras just about anyone can take a "good" picture. Also, there's not a person here on the forum who doesn't think there son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter is the cutest most photogenic human ever pose for the camera.

So, when you start out by stating that your kids are superphotogenic; especially your daughter whom you've never taken a bad picture of.. you better be able to deliver the goods.
I'm sure that your friends and family have told you that you are a fantastic photographer and your kids are sooooo cute. You won't get that here. If you want advice on how to improve a photo, or if you need technical advice and constructive criticism there are plenty of knowledgeable people here who would be happy to help you out.

The first photo I posted here when I joined was one I was very proud of. It didn't take very long for me to realize that, in the eyes of others on the forum, it could be improved upon. Ok. I've learned that this is a good place to get advice and to learn how to improve; it's not a good place to post pictures and sit back an wait for the pats on the back.
Praise for photos here is rare and hard-earned and certainly not based on whether you can pull off a good snapshot of a cute kid.


Bravo sir! Bravo!

Wow, 10 members are viewing this, must be a cinema!:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Here's what I see:

#1: playful pose is mildly interesting; missed focus on girl; vignette is gimmicky and distracting; heads are lost in the busy background; car and pillar distract.

#2: aagghh! over-saturated colours; harsh flash on boy's nose; weak, dead-center composition; plain expressions.

#3: girl's face is OOF; uninteresting expression; boy distracts; blown sky.

#4: Good. Dead center might actually work in this case; psychotic expression (sorry) holds my attention well, though rather uncomfortably; nice light. I would PP this in B&W and see how it works.

#5: harsh flash; distracting background elements; weak, uninteresting composition.

Frankly, #4 is the only one with any real strength. The rest feel like family snapshots that belong in a treasured family photo album.

I'm not a privileged little college kid. I don't believe I'm a particularly arrogant artistic type. And I don't think I'm better than you or anyone else. I'm a 62 year-old man who has been shooting photographs and making an effort to improve as a photographer for well over 40 years. Your photos are ok. Just fine for the family album or facebook. They are well exposed for the most part and in focus. Let's be honest here... with today's cameras just about anyone can take a "good" picture. Also, there's not a person here on the forum who doesn't think there son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter is the cutest most photogenic human ever pose for the camera.

So, when you start out by stating that your kids are superphotogenic; especially your daughter whom you've never taken a bad picture of.. you better be able to deliver the goods.
I'm sure that your friends and family have told you that you are a fantastic photographer and your kids are sooooo cute. You won't get that here. If you want advice on how to improve a photo, or if you need technical advice and constructive criticism there are plenty of knowledgeable people here who would be happy to help you out.

The first photo I posted here when I joined was one I was very proud of. It didn't take very long for me to realize that, in the eyes of others on the forum, it could be improved upon. Ok. I've learned that this is a good place to get advice and to learn how to improve; it's not a good place to post pictures and sit back an wait for the pats on the back.
Praise for photos here is rare and hard-earned and certainly not based on whether you can pull off a good snapshot of a cute kid.

wrong, had you critiqued them right off the bet, it would be welcomed criticism. Your comment just made you sound like a dick. I joined this site to learn how to take better pictures for my self, not for anyone else. So if I can improve how the photos look to me, that is all that matters in the end.


Are all the people in NJ as contradictory as you are? Cause you welcome criticism, but then say that it only matters what you like. If the only thing that matters is what you like...
THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE???
This is why I love this place...Tell it like it is and make me smile in one thread :popcorn: and now we get popcorn yyyyeeess!!
 
I understand feeling frustrated and annoyed that people in this forum are rude, they really are! But, they are also really helpful while being rude if that makes sense. When I 1st posted here, it was like a trainwreck. Photographers are extremely condescending judgemental people. I find this to be true for people online and in day to day life. I started photographing for a hobby, just something fun and artistic to do. I had no idea basically all other photographers are extremely catty. But I just try to roll with it and don't take it personally and certainly don't let it get you down or stop you! There's a lot to learn on this forum. I was almost chased off by the regulars but then I decided to stick it out and learn something from them. I have seen so much improvement in my photos from trying ideas and listening to tips from this site.

That said, I am not particularly fond of your photos but we all had to start somewhere right?

All he said was "How would you like us to respond?"
Any subsequent rudeness by members of this forum pales in comparison to rudeness of the OPs answer which lumped everyone on this forum into the category of "privileged little college kids or arrogant artistic type people..."

OP needs to study basic manners more than photography.
 
Dang, I missed the party.:badangel:
 
Lose the Mommy/Daddy Goggles! They are just kids... like everyone else's kids! Everyone thinks their kids are "SPECIAL" in one way or another! Strangers don't see that.. we just see kids. This is not Facebook, or one of those "Everything is beautiful" BS forums! We try to be honest, and give honest C&C so that people can improve! Even if she was as photogenic as you claim, you obviously lack the skills to capitalize on that.

We would be happy to assist you with that... and help you learn, but your attitude doesn't bode well. If you decide you do want to learn photography, please stick around.. post shots, get C&C... ask questions! You will learn if you want to.

I am sure all of your friends and family tell you that your photos are wonderful... that is because they are your friends and family, and / or they don't know any better! WE however, have no predisposition to lie to you, or coddle you.. although I realize that may seem like rudeness since you aren't used to honesty from people that actually do have a clue about photography.

I doubt that you will come back... but I hope you do, to learn! Good luck.
 
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How would you like us to respond?
Wow...I can say I have been on several internet forums from guns to cars and this one has by far the most cocky,arrogant and ignorant responses...I guess its just the "type" or privileged little college kids or arrogant artistic type people that get into photography that just have a natural "Im better than you" attitude. How about you just dont respond hows that? Since obviously mommy didnt teach someone any manners.. .
I apologize to all for sharing pictures i took on a photography forum..God forbid..

Hoo-eee! Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? IMO, rexbobcat's question was nothing unusual. We often ask such a question when we don't know what the OP is looking for. If you had joined earlier and read some of these threads you might have known that. You also might have known that the best way to post for comment is to clearly state what you did, what you would like to receive in the way of comment, space out the images and number them, indicate what post-processing you have performed, what photographic equipment was used, what lighting techniques were used, what was the weather like, etc, etc.

After having writen all of the above, you don't need to add that you have "yet to take a bad picture of her", that your children are "great subjects cause they love their picture taken", because quite frankly, we have read it all before.

Most newbies don't go off on someone because they somehow feel offended. If you are genuinely interested in learning the art and craft of photography, keep these guidelines in mind for the next time you wish to post some pictures.
 
So can someone show me an example of a good photo with interesting background and good composition? I learn better from example then explanation.
 
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