My pictures doesn't look right

[hamlet]

Fixed lenses are the way to go if you want artisan pastry oven baked crispy goodness.

... and this is another example of one-sentence solution to a problem that has multiple components, so it does not work .

A picture taken with a pro zoom in the same conditions you took the original one will be very similarly unimpressive, because the main issue is not lens quality but photographer quality. A picture taken in the best possible conditions with a kit zoom vs. pro zoom will show some difference. Prime lenses can be better or not, depending on what you mean for better and how much you spend on. However, a prime lens used in suboptimal conditions will give you the same issues.

I didn't think that far ahead, but this is agreeable. I made sure not to use my picture as a starting point and i also covered the quality of the glass.

 

[gsgary]

I did a little investigating into zoom lenses. Pro grade lenses actually only perform a little better than this kit lens when comparing crops into the image, in quality prime lenses the differences are much more noticeable.

Pro lenses are far better than your kit lens

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The zoom comparisons in kit lens and pro lenses are surprisingly unimpressive when comparing crop sharpness. Fixed lenses are the way to go if you want artisan pastry oven baked crispy goodness.

Thats bull**** pro zooms are miles better but i do prefer primes but not many compare to my Leica primes and Canon 300f2.8L

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[astroNikon]

In general, generalized statements is an issue here.

If you want to compare a specific lens versus another specific lens then a specific comparison can be made.

But saying "all consumer zooms from the beginning of time made by every manufacturer" is equivalent to "all pro zooms made by every manufacturer since the beginning of time" is just plain wrong even assuming no lens issue such as QC, fungus, hazing, et all.

Sigma, Tokina, Korin, Canon, Nikon, Tamron, Zeiss, Rokinon, Samyang, Vivitar and Mattel are some examples

My Nikon 55-200 /4-5.6 versus my 80-200/2.8 ?? the 55-200 is "good" until you crop alot, then it loses detail. The 80-200 has awesome crop detail even in low light.

my Nikon 85/1.8 prime is just better than my 24-85 / 2.8 - 4 @85 from the few comparison tests I've done.

But those are specific examples.

 

[hamlet]

In general, generalized statements is an issue here.

If you want to compare a specific lens versus another specific lens then a specific comparison can be made.

But saying "all consumer zooms from the beginning of time made by every manufacturer" is equivalent to "all pro zooms made by every manufacturer since the beginning of time" is just plain wrong even assuming no lens issue such as QC, fungus, hazing, et all.

Sigma, Tokina, Korin, Canon, Nikon, Tamron, Zeiss, Rokinon, Samyang, Vivitar and Mattel are some examples

My Nikon 55-200 /4-5.6 versus my 80-200/2.8 ?? the 55-200 is "good" until you crop alot, then it loses detail. The 80-200 has awesome crop detail even in low light.

my Nikon 85/1.8 prime is just better than my 24-85 / 2.8 - 4 @85 from the few comparison tests I've done.

But those are specific examples.

Yes, sorry. I took my lens (not the pictures i shot) as the base to compare it to pro zoom lenses. In my mind everyone was on-board with this assumption.

 

[gsgary]

In general, generalized statements is an issue here.

If you want to compare a specific lens versus another specific lens then a specific comparison can be made.

But saying "all consumer zooms from the beginning of time made by every manufacturer" is equivalent to "all pro zooms made by every manufacturer since the beginning of time" is just plain wrong even assuming no lens issue such as QC, fungus, hazing, et all.

Sigma, Tokina, Korin, Canon, Nikon, Tamron, Zeiss, Rokinon, Samyang, Vivitar and Mattel are some examples

My Nikon 55-200 /4-5.6 versus my 80-200/2.8 ?? the 55-200 is "good" until you crop alot, then it loses detail. The 80-200 has awesome crop detail even in low light.

my Nikon 85/1.8 prime is just better than my 24-85 / 2.8 - 4 @85 from the few comparison tests I've done.

But those are specific examples.

Yes, sorry. I took my lens (not the pictures i shot) as the base to compare it to pro zoom lenses. In my mind everyone was on-board with this assumption.

Are you for real ? How can a £100 lens be equal to a £1500 lens

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[hamlet]

Are you for real ? How can a £100 lens be equal to a £1500 lens

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I'm sorry for my poor communications skills. If you thought that i meant they are equal or equal all around, then this is not what i meant. The only thing i compared was the sharpness of the crop taken with each of the lenses. The pro lens was slightly sharper, barely noticeable.

 

[astroNikon]

Are you for real ? How can a £100 lens be equal to a £1500 lens

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I'm sorry for my poor communications skills. If you thought that i meant they are equal or equal all around, then this is not what i meant. The only thing i compared was the sharpness of the crop taken with each of the lenses. The pro lens was slightly sharper, barely noticeable.

Post your comparison shots

When i got my first pro zoom i could not really see much of a difference because. I was unskilled in noticing a difference.
of course my general pgotograohy skills have improved too.

Basically skill level is also very important even when doing comparisons.

 

[gsgary]

Are you for real ? How can a £100 lens be equal to a £1500 lens

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I'm sorry for my poor communications skills. If you thought that i meant they are equal or equal all around, then this is not what i meant. The only thing i compared was the sharpness of the crop taken with each of the lenses. The pro lens was slightly sharper, barely noticeable.

Well i can tell you that my shots with top quality lenses would be a lot sharper

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[astroNikon]

I'm curious if he took a "pro" samyung and compared it to a consumer Nikon .. quality in optics and everything else does not make a comparison unless the specifics are known. Or maybe the "pro" Mattel lens from the Buzz Lightyear camera .... who knows

 

[gsgary]

I'm curious if he took a "pro" samyung and compared it to a consumer Nikon .. quality in optics and everything else does not make a comparison unless the specifics are known. Or maybe the "pro" Mattel lens from the Buzz Lightyear camera .... who knows

Fisherprice kids camera

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[manaheim]

I did a little investigating into zoom lenses. Pro grade lenses actually only perform a little better than this kit lens when comparing crops into the image, in quality prime lenses the differences are much more noticeable.

ham! STOP!

You're still looking for gear answers.

One of my very best pictures is hung up on my wall and I took it with a 6MP Nikon D100 a 28-100 crap lens and a $50 tripod from Best Buy.

It looks amazing.

I took the VERY SAME PICTURE using the VERY SAME GEAR about two years earlier and it looked like utter and complete ****.

I know for a fact if I took the same picture now with my D800, 24-70 2.8 and Manfrotto that it would look pretty much the same.

Photography is a VERY steep learning curve because there is a lot of complexity and a lot of push and pull in the choices. The gear really only starts making a significant difference when you know enough to get beyond the amateurish mistakes.

Yes, better gear is better, but if you hand someone a $20,000 rifle and they don't know how to shoot, they're still going to miss the target.

 

[robbins.photo]

I'm curious if he took a "pro" samyung and compared it to a consumer Nikon .. quality in optics and everything else does not make a comparison unless the specifics are known. Or maybe the "pro" Mattel lens from the Buzz Lightyear camera .... who knows

Hey now, don't knock the Buzz Lightyear pro lens. It would not only focus to Infinity, but beyond.

 

[astroNikon]

I'm curious if he took a "pro" samyung and compared it to a consumer Nikon .. quality in optics and everything else does not make a comparison unless the specifics are known. Or maybe the "pro" Mattel lens from the Buzz Lightyear camera .... who knows

Hey now, don't knock the Buzz Lightyear pro lens. It would not only focus to Infinity, but beyond.

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[matthewo]

Hey now, don't knock the Buzz Lightyear pro lens. It would not only focus to Infinity, but beyond.

Good one, and perfect for this thread. Lol

 

[hamlet]

I am getting misunderstood left and right. Thank you everyone for you insight, its best i keep these matters about gear to myself in the future.