NEX 7 at 3200iso

[argieramos]

Why isn't argue banned yet? Hes just a troll and doesn't add anything.

What did I say that made you think that I am a troll? You are just saying that because you can't accept the truth that Canon cameras IQ is really inferior to the camera that you Canon trolls are bashing. Sorry bro, that's life

http://www.resensor.com/2011/07/nex-3-vs-7d-who-will-win/

 

[argieramos]

Sony Forum:

Cosmonaut: "ISO3200 shot taken with my NEX-7"

Canon Trolls: "Too much Noise! Ugly! Bad camera!"

Me: "But the result looks better than the Canon" <show evidence>

Canon Trolls: (WTF! pictures taken with a Canon camera really look like $h!t...Argie is right! I will just trash talk them) "*trash talk! *trash talk! *trash talk! *trash talk! *trash talk! *trash talk!"

Belial (Canon Troll): "Argie is a troll. He should be banned."

Me: "lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol....."

:lmao:

 

[argieramos]

Live view makes the camera hot, which increases noise level.

I think I have heard it all now. I have taken cameras out of hot cars in the summer with no extra noise. Your misleading people with something you can't prove nor have any facts to support it. I think a Canon has more noise because it's spelled with two Ns instead of the one in Sony. You should quit showing how smart you are.

I've never went against Sony in this thread. I've stayed neutral and I'm impressed with their sensor technology. But I am just stating the truth (maybe not a truth, but definitely something written online with supported pictures and facts) that live view makes the camera hot and increases noise level. Of course, you've taken cameras out of hot cars in the summer with no extra noise but have you made a comparison? I don't understand why are you comparing this 'I think a Canon has more noise because it's spelled with two Ns instead of the one in Sony' with this 'Live view makes the camera hot, which increases noise level'. If you don't believe what I said, you could always Google it. If you could find a source that proves me (or many people on the Internet) wrong, I'd be happy to admit that its my mistake. Also, another reason I'm stating that the noise comes from live view because from DxOMark's tests, the 60D and NEX 7 has similar SNR, so I suspect that the extra noise come from sensor heat. I'm not showing how smart I am.

Where in DXoMark's test that shows 60D and NEX-7 having similar SNR?

 

[EchoingWhisper]

I think I have heard it all now. I have taken cameras out of hot cars in the summer with no extra noise. Your misleading people with something you can't prove nor have any facts to support it. I think a Canon has more noise because it's spelled with two Ns instead of the one in Sony. You should quit showing how smart you are.

I've never went against Sony in this thread. I've stayed neutral and I'm impressed with their sensor technology. But I am just stating the truth (maybe not a truth, but definitely something written online with supported pictures and facts) that live view makes the camera hot and increases noise level. Of course, you've taken cameras out of hot cars in the summer with no extra noise but have you made a comparison? I don't understand why are you comparing this 'I think a Canon has more noise because it's spelled with two Ns instead of the one in Sony' with this 'Live view makes the camera hot, which increases noise level'. If you don't believe what I said, you could always Google it. If you could find a source that proves me (or many people on the Internet) wrong, I'd be happy to admit that its my mistake. Also, another reason I'm stating that the noise comes from live view because from DxOMark's tests, the 60D and NEX 7 has similar SNR, so I suspect that the extra noise come from sensor heat. I'm not showing how smart I am.

Where in DXoMark's test that shows 60D and NEX-7 having similar SNR?

36DB at ISO 100. Go to DxOMark.com and put NEX 7 and 60D on comparison on SNR 18% with 'screen' selected. Fair enough?

 

[cosmonaut]

DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side

 

[EchoingWhisper]

DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side

Smart guy. Comparing a new camera with two old cameras.

 

[kassad]

Look, quit being an ass. I took those photos as examples of the high ISO of the 60D. And earlier you said that technology makes the photographer. Or atleast that's what I inferred from your mockery.

And you didn't take any of those photos. I'm almost certain of it. Or atleast, I haven't seen anything spectacular out of you. That's all I'm saying, bro.

PS: The A100 or whatever the fck the first Sony DSLR was had an AF that was set up horribly. It's not my fault if it's taken Sony like 6-7 years to develop useable SLR technology that has been around for decades. I think I'll stick with Sony for my gaming needs, and leave the photography equipment to the professionals.

That's all, bro.

Do you have a source for you last statement?

 

[bentcountershaft]

If you think Sony's way of doing LV is the same way as Canon and Nikon do theirs, you don't know what you are talking about. Sony is doing a double sensor approach for the LV. It is better and faster.

I wasn't talking about Sony specifically, just the use of live view in general on any make.

 

[belial]

What did I say that made you think that I am a troll? You are just saying that because you can't accept the truth that Canon cameras IQ is really inferior to the camera that you Canon trolls are bashing. Sorry bro, that's life

http://www.resensor.com/2011/07/nex-3-vs-7d-who-will-win/

You're trashing a camera brand. That makes you a troll.

 

[kassad]

If you think Sony's way of doing LV is the same way as Canon and Nikon do theirs, you don't know what you are talking about. Sony is doing a double sensor approach for the LV. It is better and faster.

I wasn't talking about Sony specifically, just the use of live view in general on any make.

To be fair it did sound like you were lumping sony's live view in with the live view from other manufactures. I'm not sure if I would call sony's system better, but it is faster and doesn't have the potential heat issues that can arise with other manufactures.

 

[kassad]

What did I say that made you think that I am a troll? You are just saying that because you can't accept the truth that Canon cameras IQ is really inferior to the camera that you Canon trolls are bashing. Sorry bro, that's life

NEX 3 vs 7D &#8211; Who will win ? | Resensor - Alex Sierra's Lens and Camera Review

You're trashing a camera brand. That makes you a troll.

That criteria would make most of the people posting in these "Sony" threads trolls. Though, your are right Argi is a troll.

 

[bentcountershaft]

If you think Sony's way of doing LV is the same way as Canon and Nikon do theirs, you don't know what you are talking about. Sony is doing a double sensor approach for the LV. It is better and faster.

I wasn't talking about Sony specifically, just the use of live view in general on any make.

To be fair it did sound like you were lumping sony's live view in with the live view from other manufactures. I'm not sure if I would call sony's system better, but it is faster and doesn't have the potential heat issues that can arise with other manufactures.

Looking back I guess I did make that clear as mud. Sorry. When I asked about active cooling on the Sony I wasn't trolling or anything though, I'm genuinely curious what they've done to overcome that problem.

 

[kassad]

I wasn't talking about Sony specifically, just the use of live view in general on any make.

To be fair it did sound like you were lumping sony's live view in with the live view from other manufactures. I'm not sure if I would call sony's system better, but it is faster and doesn't have the potential heat issues that can arise with other manufactures.

Looking back I guess I did make that clear as mud. Sorry. When I asked about active cooling on the Sony I wasn't trolling or anything though, I'm genuinely curious what they've done to overcome that problem.

No problem. Sony uses a second mini sensor to handle the live view in the SLR models (not sure about SLTs) It allows you to use faster phase detect autofocus in live view. The newer models also allow for contrast detect autofocus in live view. I'm not sure if that contrast detect uses the mini sensor or the main sensor. I have never heard of heat problems with the sonys other than in some of the models in video mode. The flexibilty in live view focusing combined with the tilt-able display makes for a useful tool. I don't use it much on my a350 but when I do I'm glad I have the ability.

 

[o hey tyler]

If you think Sony's way of doing LV is the same way as Canon and Nikon do theirs, you don't know what you are talking about. Sony is doing a double sensor approach for the LV. It is better and faster.

I wasn't talking about Sony specifically, just the use of live view in general on any make.

That's okay, he's only ever known/lived/breathed Sony and has no knowledge of other manufacturers. You should expect this.

 

[rexbobcat]

Look, quit being an ass. I took those photos as examples of the high ISO of the 60D. And earlier you said that technology makes the photographer. Or atleast that's what I inferred from your mockery.

And you didn't take any of those photos. I'm almost certain of it. Or atleast, I haven't seen anything spectacular out of you. That's all I'm saying, bro.

PS: The A100 or whatever the fck the first Sony DSLR was had an AF that was set up horribly. It's not my fault if it's taken Sony like 6-7 years to develop useable SLR technology that has been around for decades. I think I'll stick with Sony for my gaming needs, and leave the photography equipment to the professionals.

That's all, bro.

Do you have a source for you last statement?

Eye Start AF
Eye Start AF isn't anything new to previous Minolta SLR owners but Sony are obviously keen to continue its use. On the A100 Eye Start AF does exactly what it says, when the sensor detects the proximity of your eye to the eyepiece it begins to auto focus and remains in 'continuous' auto focus until the shutter release is half-pressed or you put the camera down. In reality this means that the camera is likely to have an approximate focus on the subject before shutter release.

Sony Alpha DSLR-A100 Review: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review

Unfortunately, the model that my last employer had would never stop continuously focusing even if the shutter button was pressed down. It would act like it had locked focus, and then if you moved the camera too much it would "refocus." Maybe it was just a bad copy, or old. Either way, it sucked.

In my opinion, it was just another gimmick that apparently crossed over from the Minolta era (which went over wonderfully as you can tell), which has no other use than to help lazy photogs who can't muster the strength to press the shutter button to AF. But it's w/e to me. I never had to touch that camera again, lol.