Nikon d600 oil/dust on sensor

[pixmedic]

My sense is that Nikon intends to make the D600>D610 swap a limited time offer, so anyone with an ailing/incurable D600--whether original owner or whatever-hand owner who scarfed a used one--should push for a fix or replacement soon. The D600 has been off the market for awhile which was Nikon's obvious bid to contain the damage and limit the number of D610 swaps. Not sure whether buying a cheap,sick D600 in hopes of getting a new D610 is all that smart now.

well, for starters....
you cant just assume every D600 is "sick".
I bought two and after several thousand frames on each, have yet to see sign one of oil spots.
also, I imagine that nikon will, at the very least, replace sensors for at least the next several years, if not longer.
they have given zero indication that either the sensor replacement OR the camera replacement will be for a finite amount of time anyway, so until they do....its forever until Nikon says otherwise.

plus, I dont think anyone is actually buying D600's with the sole intent of playing it like the lottery hoping to get a D610....
My sense is that people are buying them for exactly the same reason I bought mine.
A good Nikon FX camera at a bargain price. The D610 was just out when I bought my D600's. I got both of my cameras for <$1000 each with 1200 clicks on one and 5k clicks on the other. for that same money, I could have bought one D610.

so...
yes. buying a D600 now, a month from now, or 6 months from now is actually a pretty smart move.
its a great camera at a great price and you buy it worry free with the knowledge that Nikon will fix or replace it if you get oil issues. Until Nikon officially says that there is a time limit, and/or what that end time is, you can purchase a D600 without regrets. I can rack up a 100k shutter count on my D600's and if i get an oil problem at frame 100,001 I get a free shutter.

 

[Braineack]

My sense is that when I go to the beach Wednesday, all the women are going to throw themselves on me...

Nikon already allocated the funds to fix/replace every D600 out there.

 

[cgw]

My sense is that Nikon intends to make the D600>D610 swap a limited time offer, so anyone with an ailing/incurable D600--whether original owner or whatever-hand owner who scarfed a used one--should push for a fix or replacement soon. The D600 has been off the market for awhile which was Nikon's obvious bid to contain the damage and limit the number of D610 swaps. Not sure whether buying a cheap,sick D600 in hopes of getting a new D610 is all that smart now.

It's still a lemon, mate.

well, for starters....
you cant just assume every D600 is "sick".
I bought two and after several thousand frames on each, have yet to see sign one of oil spots.
also, I imagine that nikon will, at the very least, replace sensors for at least the next several years, if not longer.
they have given zero indication that either the sensor replacement OR the camera replacement will be for a finite amount of time anyway, so until they do....its forever until Nikon says otherwise.

Your choice, as always. Seems we're confusing coincidence with correlation. I have seven friends who bought D600s and five had oil/crud issues. All ended up selling what they considered lemons and a poor choice after endless rounds of cleaning. Several bought high end FX bodies, most others ditched the brand altogether. No interest in a lemon product. And yes, there's quite a bit of self-congratulation here that a D600 can be swapped anytime for a D610. It's still an iffy product, an FX sensor dropped into an DX body. Service/replacement isn't uniformly quick. But if it's a bargain to you, why not?
plus, I dont think anyone is actually buying D600's with the sole intent of playing it like the lottery hoping to get a D610....
My sense is that people are buying them for exactly the same reason I bought mine.
A good Nikon FX camera at a bargain price. The D610 was just out when I bought my D600's. I got both of my cameras for <$1000 each with 1200 clicks on one and 5k clicks on the other. for that same money, I could have bought one D610.

so...
yes. buying a D600 now, a month from now, or 6 months from now is actually a pretty smart move.
its a great camera at a great price and you buy it worry free with the knowledge that Nikon will fix or replace it if you get oil issues. Until Nikon officially says that there is a time limit, and/or what that end time is, you can purchase a D600 without regrets. I can rack up a 100k shutter count on my D600's and if i get an oil problem at frame 100,001 I get a free shutter.

 

[pixmedic]

My sense is that Nikon intends to make the D600>D610 swap a limited time offer, so anyone with an ailing/incurable D600--whether original owner or whatever-hand owner who scarfed a used one--should push for a fix or replacement soon. The D600 has been off the market for awhile which was Nikon's obvious bid to contain the damage and limit the number of D610 swaps. Not sure whether buying a cheap,sick D600 in hopes of getting a new D610 is all that smart now.

It's still a lemon, mate.

well, for starters....
you cant just assume every D600 is "sick".
I bought two and after several thousand frames on each, have yet to see sign one of oil spots.
also, I imagine that nikon will, at the very least, replace sensors for at least the next several years, if not longer.
they have given zero indication that either the sensor replacement OR the camera replacement will be for a finite amount of time anyway, so until they do....its forever until Nikon says otherwise.

Your choice, as always. Seems we're confusing coincidence with correlation. I have seven friends who bought D600s and five had oil/crud issues. All ended up selling what they considered lemons and a poor choice after endless rounds of cleaning. Several bought high end FX bodies, most others ditched the brand altogether. No interest in a lemon product. And yes, there's quite a bit of self-congratulation here that a D600 can be swapped anytime for a D610. It's still an iffy product, an FX sensor dropped into an DX body. Service/replacement isn't uniformly quick. But if it's a bargain to you, why not?
plus, I dont think anyone is actually buying D600's with the sole intent of playing it like the lottery hoping to get a D610....
My sense is that people are buying them for exactly the same reason I bought mine.
A good Nikon FX camera at a bargain price. The D610 was just out when I bought my D600's. I got both of my cameras for <$1000 each with 1200 clicks on one and 5k clicks on the other. for that same money, I could have bought one D610.

so...
yes. buying a D600 now, a month from now, or 6 months from now is actually a pretty smart move.
its a great camera at a great price and you buy it worry free with the knowledge that Nikon will fix or replace it if you get oil issues. Until Nikon officially says that there is a time limit, and/or what that end time is, you can purchase a D600 without regrets. I can rack up a 100k shutter count on my D600's and if i get an oil problem at frame 100,001 I get a free shutter.

nope.
best. deal. evah.

 

[cgw]

Sorry, pixmedic, but our views of the ideal "customer experience" obviously differ. Mine doesn't include wasting time arm-twisting a manufacturer after buying a known,discontinued lemon withdrawn from the market to leverage a slim upgrade. Happy to be free of needing "deals" like that.

 

[Braineack]

Yeah filling out a form and getting a free shipping label is pretty tough...

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[Derrel]

My sense is that when I go to the beach Wednesday, all the women are going to throw themselves on me...

Be very cautious about that. If there are a lot of women on the beach, you could be suffocated from their total,collective weight. That would be a terrible thing. But, if that happens, could I have your cameras and lenses?

 

[krs_2007]

The D600 was a lemon. Do what's necessary ASAP to get a D610.

I'm sorry, been here for a while and don't really comment. But this comment is absurd. It's not a lemon, It's a great camera with a cleaning issue, no big deal.

Have they responded to the issue, yes. Am I ready to give up on the quality, hell no.

The camera is a fantastic camera! Learn to use it and quit complaining.


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[krs_2007]

Sorry, pixmedic, but our views of the ideal "customer experience" obviously differ. Mine doesn't include wasting time arm-twisting a manufacturer after buying a known,discontinued lemon withdrawn from the market to leverage a slim upgrade. Happy to be free of needing "deals" like that.

Learn to use a camera and then come back and state it's a lemon. Typical complainer, just move along.


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[pixmedic]

Sorry, pixmedic, but our views of the ideal "customer experience" obviously differ. Mine doesn't include wasting time arm-twisting a manufacturer after buying a known,discontinued lemon withdrawn from the market to leverage a slim upgrade. Happy to be free of needing "deals" like that.

there's no need to arm twist, because Nikon is handling the problem like a pro.
Nikon has not denied any claims, nor turned away any cameras.
there are only two questions. do you have a D600? and, does it have oil spots?
that's it. if the answer to those two questions are yes, then it gets fixed. no fuss, no muss.
to me, that screams exemplary customer service.
if you like spending twice as much money to avoid the possibility of a small inconvenience, thats certainly your business...
me? not so much.

 

[cgw]

Sorry, pixmedic, but our views of the ideal "customer experience" obviously differ. Mine doesn't include wasting time arm-twisting a manufacturer after buying a known,discontinued lemon withdrawn from the market to leverage a slim upgrade. Happy to be free of needing "deals" like that.

there's no need to arm twist, because Nikon is handling the problem like a pro.
Nikon has not denied any claims, nor turned away any cameras.
there are only two questions. do you have a D600? and, does it have oil spots?
that's it. if the answer to those two questions are yes, then it gets fixed. no fuss, no muss.
to me, that screams exemplary customer service.
if you like spending twice as much money to avoid the possibility of a small inconvenience, thats certainly your business...
me? not so much.

Provided you're gratified owning the only camera(?)Nikon was forced to withdraw from the market. Seems a thin pretext for smugness. Nikon was cornered into generosity. Enjoy it. Many other customers and retailers on the sharp end of the problem didn't.

 

[pixmedic]

Sorry, pixmedic, but our views of the ideal "customer experience" obviously differ. Mine doesn't include wasting time arm-twisting a manufacturer after buying a known,discontinued lemon withdrawn from the market to leverage a slim upgrade. Happy to be free of needing "deals" like that.

there's no need to arm twist, because Nikon is handling the problem like a pro.
Nikon has not denied any claims, nor turned away any cameras.
there are only two questions. do you have a D600? and, does it have oil spots?
that's it. if the answer to those two questions are yes, then it gets fixed. no fuss, no muss.
to me, that screams exemplary customer service.
if you like spending twice as much money to avoid the possibility of a small inconvenience, thats certainly your business...
me? not so much.

Provided you're gratified owning the only camera(?)Nikon was forced to withdraw from the market. Seems a thin pretext for smugness. Nikon was cornered into generosity. Enjoy it. Many customers and retailers on the sharp end of the problem didn't.

im not sure I would call it "smugness". just stating the reality of the situation.
I wanted to upgrade to a full frame setup.
I realistically needed two bodies.
at the time, the D610 was $2000 and used D600's were around +/- $1000.
I did not have $4000 to spend on cameras.
Fact: budget wise my choices were 1 D610, 1 D800, 2 D700's, or 2 D600's.
Fact: If I bought a D600 and it had any oil issues, Nikon would fix it.
I choose the D600's over the similarly priced D700's due to the 24mp sensor and better ISO performance. and to some extent dual SD card slots. (I did prefer the 51pt AF system of the D700, which I miss from my D7100)

simply speaking, there were no better options for me than the D600. why would I spend twice the money for basically the same camera when I KNOW Nikon will fix any oil problems with the D600's?
it doesn't matter to me WHY they will fix it, only that it will get done.
if someone has ethical issues with the reasons behind Nikon agreeing to do the repairs, than they probably wouldn't be buying Nikon products anyway so the D600 vs D610 debate is a non issue. that person would be shooting Canon or some other system.
all that mattered to ME was that it would be done if there was an issue.

ive been extremely pleased with my choice. the D600 has been a great camera. i have had no issues out of either of mine, like many that purchased them, and I dont worry about the oil issues because if one does start flinging oil I know it will get fixed. I fail to see how it was a bad choice in any way.

 

[Braineack]

Yes, the D600 had a design flaw: it slung oil.

Early owners got kinda screwed (kinda like 7Dmii owners that couldn't focus), but Nikon was still cleaning them under warranty, for free. And had a service advisory for cleaning service within a few months after initial release.

Who cares if it got forced from the market or not? The D610 is a D600 -- It just doesn't sling oil. They could have named it the DoesntSlingOil600, it's still the same thing.

We are almost two years into the service advisory for a free shutter replacement; you can buy one without worry.

If it starts to sling oil, you can get the shutter replaced from what is supposed to be one directly out of the DSO600. If that shutter sling flings oil, they will send you a new DSO600.

I'd personally rather buy a new D610 For $700, than a new D610 for $1500. There's nothing wrong with the D600 otherwise. Even with oil sludge over all the sensor, it produces beautiful images -- still one of the best sensors on the market today.

 

[astroNikon]

My sense is that when I go to the beach Wednesday, all the women are going to throw themselves on me...

Be very cautious about that. If there are a lot of women on the beach, you could be suffocated from their total,collective weight. That would be a terrible thing. But, if that happens, could I have your cameras and lenses?

I just want to know which beach this is ?????

 

[cgw]

Yes, the D600 had a design flaw: it slung oil.

Early owners got kinda screwed (kinda like 7Dmii owners that couldn't focus), but Nikon was still cleaning them under warranty, for free. And had a service advisory for cleaning service within a few months after initial release.

Who cares if it got forced from the market or not? The D610 is a D600 -- It just doesn't sling oil. They could have named it the DoesntSlingOil600, it's still the same thing.

We are almost two years into the service advisory for a free shutter replacement; you can buy one without worry.

If it starts to sling oil, you can get the shutter replaced from what is supposed to be one directly out of the DSO600. If that shutter sling flings oil, they will send you a new DSO600.

I'd personally rather buy a new D610 For $700, than a new D610 for $1500. There's nothing wrong with the D600 otherwise. Even with oil sludge over all the sensor, it produces beautiful images -- still one of the best sensors on the market today.

Different hierarchy of needs, I guess.