nikon d600 or d700?? decisions!

colnago1331 · Jul 7, 2014

cgw said:
Given the grief they've caused, why the D600--assuming you could find one?

The D610 replaced it.

The only problem with the D600 was (is) the shutter/oil problem, and now Nikon is replacing the shutter mechanism for any D600 that has the problem. I was able to pick up a refurbished D600 - which thus essentially had a 0 shutter count - for many hundreds less than a new D610.

ruifo · Jul 7, 2014

^^

Very good point!

colnago1331 · Jul 7, 2014

sashbar said:
Can anyone explain to me, why an amateur needs a "built like a tank" body? It is so heavy and designed for a heavy everyday use and abuse i.e. for a professional shooter. An D610 will get outdated sooner than an average amateur photographer will be able break it.

I am really surprised sometimes, because an extra weight is the price that the pros have to pay , but amateurs? Every time I pick up a D610 or D7100 I think, no way, it is ridiculously big and heavy. Why do amateurs buy even heavier bodies is beyond me. More exposure brackets? Give me a break..

Neither the D600/D610 nor the D7100 are professional DSLRs with "built like a tank" bodies. They're quite light in comparison with the D700.

pixmedic · Jul 7, 2014

I am a pretty big advocate for shooting with older cameras. I still grab my d200 when I want to drag a dslr out to the dog park or somewhere not client related...

That being said, for the same money, I would get a d600/610 over the d700.
Nothing wrong with the d700 mind you, and it does have the 51pt autofocus system.....but the 39pt system in the d600 is perfectly capable as well, and you get the advantages of the newer sensor and processor.

sashbar · Jul 7, 2014

colnago1331 said:
sashbar said:

Can anyone explain to me, why an amateur needs a "built like a tank" body? It is so heavy and designed for a heavy everyday use and abuse i.e. for a professional shooter. An D610 will get outdated sooner than an average amateur photographer will be able break it.

I am really surprised sometimes, because an extra weight is the price that the pros have to pay , but amateurs? Every time I pick up a D610 or D7100 I think, no way, it is ridiculously big and heavy. Why do amateurs buy even heavier bodies is beyond me. More exposure brackets? Give me a break..

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Neither the D600/D610 nor the D7100 are professional DSLRs with "built like a tank" bodies. They're quite light in comparison with the D700.

This is exactly what I mean. Even the amateur 610 or 7100 feels to big and heavy to me, even these bodies are made strong enough for years and years of amateur shooting, why buying an even heavier d700?

Mach0 · Jul 7, 2014

pixmedic said:
I am a pretty big advocate for shooting with older cameras. I still grab my d200 when I want to drag a dslr out to the dog park or somewhere not client related...

That being said, for the same money, I would get a d600/610 over the d700.
Nothing wrong with the d700 mind you, and it does have the 51pt autofocus system.....but the 39pt system in the d600 is perfectly capable as well, and you get the advantages of the newer sensor and processor.

This ^^ I picked up my d90 this past weekend and it took about 5 minutes to get situated with it again (diff menu and controls than the d700) and it made me rethink the d600/610. I would miss a dedicated AF-ON button but that's about it. If I need a speed demon I can always use the gripped d700.

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Derrel · Jul 7, 2014

I'd take the D600 or D610's 24 megapixel output over the D700's 12 MP middle-of-last decade output for equine photography. You'll get a LOT more crop-ability with the 24MP captures. The difference is VERY dramatic, since the D610 sensor is three generations newer than the one in the D700, and it';s got double the MP count. You will be able to shoot at higher ISO's with less noise, and if you down-sample the 24MP frames, the noise basically is highly sublimated. But the crop-ability of 24MP FX with a good lens is pretty amazing; you can throw away 50% of a frame, and still be BETTER than a D700 frame shown full-frame. You can shoot with the 85mm 1/8 AF-S G, one of the most incredddddddddddibly sharp lenses I've ever owned, and throw away half of a 24MP FX frame, and still have a very nice, 12 megapixel capture.

cgw · Jul 8, 2014

colnago1331 said:
cgw said:

Given the grief they've caused, why the D600--assuming you could find one?

The D610 replaced it.

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The only problem with the D600 was (is) the shutter/oil problem, and now Nikon is replacing the shutter mechanism for any D600 that has the problem. I was able to pick up a refurbished D600 - which thus essentially had a 0 shutter count - for many hundreds less than a new D610.

That "problem" was sufficiently disturbing to many uphappy D600 owners that some threatened Nikon with product liability suits. The results were the belated shutter replacement program that amounted to a recall and the decision by Nikon to axe the D600 and replace it with the D610. The camera was a lemon. Good luck with yours.

astroNikon · Jul 8, 2014

cgw said:
That "problem" was sufficiently disturbing to many uphappy D600 owners that some threatened Nikon with product liability suits. The results were the belated shutter replacement program that amounted to a recall and the decision by Nikon to axe the D600 and replace it with the D610. The camera was a lemon. Good luck with yours.

Sometimes it comes down to affordability.
Before I bought my d600 I also looked at the d610 but it was out of my price range. Only the d600 and d700 were barely in my price range. I tried to figure out how to get the d610 but after a couple months of trying I just got the d600.

Some may say .. save up some more. But with kids sometimes you just cannot do that. When you are maxxed out, you are maxxed out.
One reason I cannot afford pro AF-S lenses.

But my Cameta Camera refurb'd d600 has been going strong for 8 months now without a problem.

Braineack · Jul 8, 2014

I hate that I only spent $1100 on my refurbished D600, ignored the oil issue for months of shooting on a dirty sensor, and had to be without it for 9 whole days to send it in for a free shutter replacement, aa filter, and firmware upgrade.

If only I just bought a brand new D610, that's exactly the same and $800 more, meaning I'd never be able to purchase either my 24-70 or 70-200. But I'll never have those 9 days back.

cgw · Jul 8, 2014

Braineack said:
I hate that I only spent $1100 on my refurbished D600, ignored the oil issue for months of shooting on a dirty sensor, and had to be without it for 9 whole days to send it in for a free shutter replacement, aa filter, and firmware upgrade.

If only I just bought a brand new D610, that's exactly the same and $800 more, meaning I'd never be able to purchase either my 24-70 or 70-200. But I'll never have those 9 days back.

And which shutter did they transplant? D600? D610? Dunno? Lucky you.

Shoot it till it breaks cuz resale/trade-in value is sure to be an unpleasant surprise.