Nikon is learning from Canon

[Coasty]

I believe the product cycle of a consumer electronic should be short. And the new generation should not be too much different from the last generation. Even if Nikon is capable of adding more features to D5300 or improve it quite a bit, they will not do so or cannot afford to do so.

If they make the D5300 so good, it may hurt the sales of other Nikon DSLR models. And most important, I think it may hurt the next few generations of the D5X00 series and that is not what Nikon want to see. Imagine if the D5300 raise the bar so high, what can Nikon do in the next generation? Especially this camera belongs to a consumer electronic which has a shorter life cycle.

The jump from the D100 to the D200 was a jump, as was the jump from the D200 to the D300 and the D90 to the D7000. The latest "jumps" from Nikon , the D600-610 and the D5200-5300 are not even baby steps.

 

[DarkShadow]

Thats because I think Canon markets to the emotions of the viewer.

Like with that burning tire commercial. It makes people say "wow I can do THAT with a CANON camera."

Now compare that to Nikon's commercials. Ashton Kutcher creeping around getting telephoto shots of women.

He's not the spokesperson for them anymore but c'mon Nikon. The best you could do was Ashton Kutcher?

Yep, great marketing = Sales.

 

[TheLost]

Nikon needs to paint all their pro lenses GOLD and add 'N' (for Nano) to all the names... then when your walking around people would go "oh.. you must be a pro!" "that's right... i only shoot N glass"..

Stupid Canon and their White L lenses.

 

[raventepes]

That would be epic in so many different ways...:thumbup:

 

[scaryloud]

So the D600 is gone and the D610 replaces it, there is a justification because the oil/dust.......blah, blah, blah
But
Now with the D5300 which is a tweaked D5200, and I am wondering....hmmmmm

Canon has been selling same sensor in roughly same body just tweaking it T2i, T3i, T4i, T5i
And now I am looking at the D610 and D5300 and I am wondering is Nikon doing the same thing ?
Are we gonna see soon a tweaked version of the D3200 and D7100 ?
Is this Nikon's way to make money ?
Finding ways to sell almost same camera with little development investment to the masses ?

Oh dear soon we will have to put T6i badge on the next entry level Nikon.

In my opinion, what's hurting Nikon, other that the poorly marketed Nikon 1 line, is they're vast DSLR line. They have the D3000, D3100, D3200, D5100, D5200, D5300, D90, D7000, D7100, D300s all in production. Why? I thought the purpose of upgrading an item was to replace the older. Canon doesn't do this to the extent Nikon does. The only cameras Nikon has done away with in the last year or two is the D5000 and D700. Nikon needs to simplify their products or risk confusing and turning away new customers to their brand. Nikons line should simply be D3200, D5300, D7100, D610, D800e, D3x, D4.

 

[TheLost]

In my opinion, what's hurting Nikon, other that the poorly marketed Nikon 1 line, is they're vast DSLR line. They have the D3000, D3100, D3200, D5100, D5200, D5300, D90, D7000, D7100, D300s all in production. Why? I thought the purpose of upgrading an item was to replace the older. Canon doesn't do this to the extent Nikon does. The only cameras Nikon has done away with in the last year or two is the D5000 and D700. Nikon needs to simplify their products or risk confusing and turning away new customers to their brand. Nikons line should simply be D3200, D5300, D7100, D610, D800e, D3x, D4.

Nikon doesn't make the D3000,D3100,D5100,D5200,D90,D7000,D600 anymore... They just have warehouses full of old stock.

 

[scaryloud]

This may be true. That's what "fire" sales are for. They still list them as current models on their website though. And after 3+ years, you'd think they'd be out of D90's and D3000 from overstock... especially with the popularity of the D90.

 

[goodguy]

So the D600 is gone and the D610 replaces it, there is a justification because the oil/dust.......blah, blah, blah
But
Now with the D5300 which is a tweaked D5200, and I am wondering....hmmmmm

Canon has been selling same sensor in roughly same body just tweaking it T2i, T3i, T4i, T5i
And now I am looking at the D610 and D5300 and I am wondering is Nikon doing the same thing ?
Are we gonna see soon a tweaked version of the D3200 and D7100 ?
Is this Nikon's way to make money ?
Finding ways to sell almost same camera with little development investment to the masses ?

Oh dear soon we will have to put T6i badge on the next entry level Nikon.

In my opinion, what's hurting Nikon, other that the poorly marketed Nikon 1 line, is they're vast DSLR line. They have the D3000, D3100, D3200, D5100, D5200, D5300, D90, D7000, D7100, D300s all in production. Why? I thought the purpose of upgrading an item was to replace the older. Canon doesn't do this to the extent Nikon does. The only cameras Nikon has done away with in the last year or two is the D5000 and D700. Nikon needs to simplify their products or risk confusing and turning away new customers to their brand. Nikons line should simply be D3200, D5300, D7100, D610, D800e, D3x, D4.

This may be true. That's what "fire" sales are for. They still list them as current models on their website though. And after 3+ years, you'd think they'd be out of D90's and D3000 from overstock... especially with the popularity of the D90.

Actually I agree with you and was thinking about this, too many cameras, too many models.
What ever they are doing and what ever the reasons are I agree it is confusing with all these models for the novice who want the best bang for the buck.
I dont think its connected to my initial post when I think they are copying Canon creating almost same camera, slapping a new model number and sell it as a new model.