Not all Cameras are Created Equal.

[Bokehen]

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[Soocom1]

Marketing hype is just that. hype.

A camera is basically a box. With film or digital, the real mustard is found in the use of what one has.
I remember distinctively in 2002 when the Kodak DCS 14Mp Canon/Nikon monsters came out costing over $10,000 that everyone saw the most "extreme" quality of all time.
today those cameras might fetch $200 on ebay.

The real mark of a solid photograph comes from the use of the camera and how it is employed.
Some of the most famous and gorgeous pictures (outside of Ansel Adams) came from folks using what we would not consider arcane.

 

[Original katomi]

I agree with your comments, I would and have offered much the same advice. For me an up grade is when I can’t do what I want to do with the current .insert item here ... and can not find a work around. I like to push my kit to the limits eg a 60 by 16 inch panarama . I have seen friends go out and buy the latest ???? And the regret it. I rem when everyone had to have the latest 12 ink a3 printers, I bought one of their used 5 ink, 2 black 3 colours, A year later these same people are wishing they had not bothered, because the gains were wiped out by the cost of the inks.
I have two types of print.
Short life print... used for display for a year or in the past a club comp. these I print at home using 3 rd party inks ok they fade by as said short life print.
The 2nd is anything else, big prints, outside display, prints to keep or if I want top quality then I use my local print shop.

 

[Jeff15]

The camera is only as good as the guy holding it, that said the better the camera the easier it gets to get great results.

 

[Soocom1]

In reality, the real argument over image quality though is valid with newer and more enhanced image capture process, the real crux of high quality lies with format size, hands down.

Cameras however can have an effect on overall quality if the camera itself and/or lens is low or high quality.

 

[Raw photographer]

I agree 110 % I just have a little canon rebel xs and I find it takes amazing images.

 

[RVT1K]

This came up in a different thread but it bears repeating.

The instructor of my first digital photography class (actually my first photography class of any kind) said this:

"I can teach you how to use your camera but I can't teach you how to be a photographer."

People take lots and lots of bad photos with good equipment.

 

[Original katomi]

Don’t know about others here but I have seen a lot of men who have the latest ..... and yet it’s more of a fashion statement “hay look at me I’ve got the latest whatever,” really I don’t have a clue what to do with it.

 

[Soocom1]

Don’t know about others here but I have seen a lot of men who have the latest ..... and yet it’s more of a fashion statement “hay look at me I’ve got the latest whatever,” really I don’t have a clue what to do with it.

its called..... toys.

 

[Original katomi]

That’s so true. Most of my kit is second hand/used. Yes I have been caught out a few times and bought a duff item, it makes me cross when you see some bloke sat at the pub table with the camera sat there lens off in the middle of glasses of drink whilst he faffs around changing the lens. Then he wonders why he has sticky spots on the sensor

 

[RVT1K]

This came up in a different thread but it bears repeating.

The instructor of my first digital photography class (actually my first photography class of any kind) said this:

"I can teach you how to use your camera but I can't teach you how to be a photographer."

People take lots and lots of bad photos with good equipment.

You mean kinda like women with shoes and handbags?

 

[Jeff15]

Some years ago my wife and I went to a friends for dinner. While there my photography hobby came up in conversation, I keep some of my work on my phone and after showing these images around my friend's wife said wow you must have an amazing camera. At the end of the evening on our way out, I turned to my friend's wife and said the meal was lovely you must have an amazing cooker.

 

[ac12]

YEARS ago, a friend (pro photog) had a daughter who was taking great pictures with her Kodak Instamatic (box camera of that time).
For her 18th birthday, he gave her a Hasselblad. (droool).
6 months later, his daughter gave him back the Hasselblad, and asked for her old Instamatic.
As a pro photographer, he was confused ?????

When he investigated, it turned out that the Hasselblad was making the process of taking the picture too technical for his daughter, and she was loosing the artistic vision of composing the shot. IOW, the camera was getting in the way of making the picture.
The Hasselblad violated the KISS principle.

It isn't the camera/tool, it is the photographer that MAKES the picture.

 

[ac12]

I was talking to a high school photo teacher a while back.
In the beginning photo class, the students are only to use their phone camera.
The teacher told me, this was to get the students to recognize, that they do not need a fancy/expensive camera to get a good pic.
Most of the basics of photography can be taught with a box camera. The phone camera is the modern day equivalent of the box camera, point and click.

 

[Sharpshooterr]

I was talking to a high school photo teacher a while back.
In the beginning photo class, the students are only to use their phone camera.
The teacher told me, this was to get the students to recognize, that they do not need a fancy/expensive camera to get a good pic.
Most of the basics of photography can be taught with a box camera. The phone camera is the modern day equivalent of the box camera, point and click.

It's really too bad that there are such poor teachers still out there using archaic teaching techniques!
That teacher will handicap a room full of 30 students just to prove a personal point, mostly to themselves!
That SAME point can be made using a 1Dx/D5(etc.). What a learning experience lost for the students! No learning the basics of f-stops, ISO or the values of shutter speeds as they relate to motion blur. The students would learn more building and using a pin-hole camera!
I could understand it if it was billed as an iPhone class but I think it was not!!!
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