interesting thread. i have been on and off this forum since it started (Dial-Up Lhama). apparently thats 2003 but i thought it was earlier...like 2001/2002 did it change ownership? anyhow...like hundreds of people here who post/lurk i've been into photography for decades. also thousands of hours of 'post-production/'pre-press' whatever you term it. i'm not the slightest bit interested in 'critique' absolutely ZERO interest in critical value judgements which are incompatible with a spirit of subjective freedom. i'm unimpressed by a post-count and i can see someone has a photoshop guru scoutbadge - whoopee-doo! i do like conversations which stem from the subjectivity of images and i like discussions/anecdotes about operational techniques and obscure information about cameras and optics. i'd share a picture for fun. also i see many many great photos that are completely ignored on this forum in the past. when i see any merit in a picture i will encourage it. i will refrain from critique also if i sense it is beyond the capability of the poster to understand. if a beginner posts something then put yourself in his/her shoes and remember that it's a lifelong pursuit and the magic of general photography is something profound when you are a novice and don't crush that seed.. try to see the purpose in a mediocre photo. greatness comes from encouragement not derision. if you want to belong to an elite forum, try photofurm.ru. it's good - very good standards. you will gradually be judged over time and considered for promotion to membership. and there is ipernity which blows flickr out of the water for community interaction. hundreds of excellent, global photographers who hardly ever critique anything. they teach by showing. and people learn by copying whatever attracts them. if i post pictures without any sharpening, processed at 5200kelvin regardless of time of day etc. its because i want to. not because i dont know how to dodge/burn/blend/gradient map etc. there are some rude ignorant people here who i know would lack the experience to discern that. at best those people will ignore the things i might share. that's a good working relationship. i hope this forum continues for years to come. it is essentially a very good place.