Now that I have introduced myself I need feedback

arcooke · Nov 9, 2010

I can't believe how rude you people were to him. I never saw the pictures, and sure, they may have been awful.. but there's criticism, and then there's ganging up and being downright mean. That's not going to promote improvement, it's going to promote discouragement.

Not cool.

ChevyBaby · Nov 9, 2010

That's what i thought as soon as i saw that he'd removed his site but then when i saw some of his pics posted in his other topic, i thought 'sure, that's not perfect' but he's a beginner and that's why we're all here.

We didn't see the website, having said that, maybe it really was just an awful layout and managed badly. But the sarcasm was harsh - at least he came back posting for more advice so he wasn't disheartened at all.

Keep on snapping!

Derrel · Nov 9, 2010

arcooke said:
I can't believe how rude you people were to him. I never saw the pictures, and sure, they may have been awful.. but there's criticism, and then there's ganging up and being downright mean. That's not going to promote improvement, it's going to promote discouragement.

Not cool.

For those who did not have the chance to see the images, or rather, the 50% of the images: each image had a positively huge, 1960's style, Scooby-Doo-esque, psychedelic "S A M P L E" anti-theft precautionary measure that was overlayed in semi-script lettering with a sort of flower power motif surrounding the letters. Let me explain, and state that in my opinion at least, the reception the OP received has already promoted improvement on his or her part...the images were absolutely, positively abysmally beginnerish. Hey, I do dozens of posts and I help newbies with the absolute dumbest, most-basic concepts every week,week after week. But the OP's SAMPLE photos were really,really,really bad in terms of exposure, or should I say gross overexposure, leading to yellow skies, posterization, and blank image areas. Most iPhone photos were/are better, and if his camera offers the "blinkies" for showing overexposed areas, then the 80% of the entire screen would have been blinking on some of the images. On the last shot, the garden pond scene, the focus was off by maybe 10 feet or so. I do not like to think for other people, but it's possible that some might have thought this was a send-up...

You are right, there is criticism, and then there is telling a clearly misguided individual that every single photograph has SERIOUS, glaring, fundamental technical flaws as well as zero artistic merit, and is in NO WAY suitable for sale via electronic download! I'm sorry, but my 7 year old son shoots his mom's D40 or her Pansonic P&S and is a more discriminating shooter, willfully going through and kill-filing his frames that do not meet his standards.

As you said, "I never saw the pictures." Well, I did, and I am here to explain exactly why the reception these got was the way it was, from my point of view. The original photos were, shall we say, "extreme" in their quality, both artistically, and technically, as well as in the ridiculously huuuuuuuuuge watermark that covered an incredibly large part of the images. I am not trying to defend bad behavior, but the suggestions and comments were in line with, again, an "extreme" type of post...

bigtwinky · Nov 9, 2010

I need to check this forum more often, I miss out on all the interesting stuff

AgentDrex · Nov 9, 2010

I know, right? :lmao:

arcooke · Nov 9, 2010

Derrel said:
arcooke said:

I can't believe how rude you people were to him. I never saw the pictures, and sure, they may have been awful.. but there's criticism, and then there's ganging up and being downright mean. That's not going to promote improvement, it's going to promote discouragement.

Not cool.

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For those who did not have the chance to see the images, or rather, the 50% of the images: each image had a positively huge, 1960's style, Scooby-Doo-esque, psychedelic "S A M P L E" anti-theft precautionary measure that was overlayed in semi-script lettering with a sort of flower power motif surrounding the letters. Let me explain, and state that in my opinion at least, the reception the OP received has already promoted improvement on his or her part...the images were absolutely, positively abysmally beginnerish. Hey, I do dozens of posts and I help newbies with the absolute dumbest, most-basic concepts every week,week after week. But the OP's SAMPLE photos were really,really,really bad in terms of exposure, or should I say gross overexposure, leading to yellow skies, posterization, and blank image areas. Most iPhone photos were/are better, and if his camera offers the "blinkies" for showing overexposed areas, then the 80% of the entire screen would have been blinking on some of the images. On the last shot, the garden pond scene, the focus was off by maybe 10 feet or so. I do not like to think for other people, but it's possible that some might have thought this was a send-up...

You are right, there is criticism, and then there is telling a clearly misguided individual that every single photograph has SERIOUS, glaring, fundamental technical flaws as well as zero artistic merit, and is in NO WAY suitable for sale via electronic download! I'm sorry, but my 7 year old son shoots his mom's D40 or her Pansonic P&S and is a more discriminating shooter, willfully going through and kill-filing his frames that do not meet his standards.

As you said, "I never saw the pictures." Well, I did, and I am here to explain exactly why the reception these got was the way it was, from my point of view. The original photos were, shall we say, "extreme" in their quality, both artistically, and technically, as well as in the ridiculously huuuuuuuuuge watermark that covered an incredibly large part of the images. I am not trying to defend bad behavior, but the suggestions and comments were in line with, again, an "extreme" type of post...

That's all fine and well...

My point is that we can comment on his photos, tell him where he went wrong, give suggestions for improvement, etc. Regardless how abysmal they may be. We don't have to resort to sarcasm and insults to get the point across. A little friendly criticism goes a long way.