Photographers Rights

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  1. KmH

    KmH Helping photographers learn to fish Supporting Member

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    Colorado journalist says she was detained for taking photos

    It would seem the officers overstepped their bounds.
    I suspect they are not familiar with the 1st amendment of the US Constitution or Colorado state law.
    This type of incident is getting extremely tiresome.
    Lets hope we get to find out the results of the DPD internal investigation.

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  2. 480sparky

    480sparky Chief Free Electron Relocator Supporting Member

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    Amble on over to YouTube and search for First Amendment Audit.

    Most likely result will be what IA calls 'corrective action'. Meaning: The officer was promoted with a commensurate pay raise.
     
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    dennybeall No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    The man was both naked and mentally ill. Could we rewrite the headline to say "Woman detained for taking photos of naked mentally ill individual." ??? Guess it wouldn't fit her agenda if we rewrote it though??
     
  4. Braineack

    Braineack Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    you could, still doesn't change the fact that the cops acted over-zealously and unlawfully without any repercussions -- even while filming themselves breaking laws.
     
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    vintagesnaps Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    I'm not sure the concern would/should have been someone taking photos as much as how near someone was to what could have been an unstable or unpredictable situation. Even the working media sometimes get moved back or away from an incident. I don't know if she identified herself or not.

    The article says she was detained until after the ambulance left with the man. It's necessary to comply with what police ask/tell you to do. Even I know that with the type work I did, I had a coworker end up in the middle of a drug bust once. Do what they say, let them sort it out...

    EVEN IF you feel like you're in the right, this doesn't seem like the best way to handle it. You can always go file a complaint later. Arguing with an officer at the scene or showing unwillingness to comply doesn't seem to ever work out well. I think an officer has the authority to tell citizens at the scene to leave/move away, etc., not to stop taking pictures, so they probably should have just told her to move back til they had the person secured.
     
  6. Braineack

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    there are laws on what it takes to be detained. i.e, being suspected of a crime. There was no suspicion of a crime.

    let's say i didnt wear a badge, and just handcuffed you until i felt like releasing you, you did nothing wrong. What would you describe that as?

    police "investigate" themselves. that is, if they will even give you a complain form...
     
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    KmH Helping photographers learn to fish Supporting Member

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    Yep. The cops did an extremely poor job of doing their job.
    Indeed, as Braineak alludes to the actions of the police in this situation were criminal at worst, and at least demonstrated either disregard for the law, or worse, a lack of knowing what the first amendment and the related state laws of their state are about.
     
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    vintagesnaps Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Alright, I looked up The Colorado Independent. It's not a published newspaper or media outlet, it's a nonprofit.

    It is self described as an online news source. The self proclaimed publisher seems to have no background in publishing or media or journalism. They seem to have NO photographers and 2 reporters. They do have 5 interns and a columnist and a cartoonist... I mostly see stock photos and no photo credits.

    Oh it just gets better... how can she be the self proclaimed editor and also be on the board?? Since when do you hire yourself? If this is a paid job, I'm not sure if it is, but I think it would be a conflict of interest to be on the board and also be employed by the board you're on.

    Something didn't seem to make sense when I read her article, because it isn't written according to journalistic standards that even I learned in high school. I wondered with the level of writing how she was considered for a Pulitzer, but found it was when she co-researched and co-wrote a series with another writer some time ago.

    And she was detained for 10 minutes. If she felt the officer(s) handled her a way that was too physical or inappropriately, then why didn't she file a complaint? Because apparently she didn't when she had the opportunity.
     
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    In this situation, being detained for 10 minutes was not being arrested; she was not arrested or taken to jail. If she had a complaint about how this was handled and how she was treated, then file the complaint. Why gripe about it online and then do nothing about it? why refuse to file a complaint when offered the opportunity? If their police dept. doesn't do anything about it, then figure out the next step, go to your county/city government offices, etc.
     
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    I will never have this problem. I've already investigated myself and found I will do nothing wrong for at least the next five years.
     
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    I'd like a second opinion from Missus Sparky on that!
     
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