Professional Gallery? Qualified to post?

tmjjk · Oct 10, 2012

I will make sure to remove exif data before posting anything else in the Pro gallery

2WheelPhoto · Oct 10, 2012

Nice, for the sake of critique I may hve had the "Mr" guy hold the sign from underneath to be uniform such as the gal's

cgipson1 · Oct 10, 2012

tmjjk said:
I will make sure to remove exif data before posting anything else in the Pro gallery

yea... that would be very professional. Just hide the exif....

unpopular · Oct 10, 2012

this is why I never used the "P for professional" mode.

Not being a professional I knew if I did the APA would fine me.

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but seriously Charles. You know this doesn't really matter. It's poor technique, but in the end - who cares.

2WheelPhoto · Oct 10, 2012

hah

cgipson1 · Oct 10, 2012

unpopular said:
this is why I never used the "P for professional" mode.

Not being a professional I knew if I did the APA would fine me.

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but seriously Charles. You know this doesn't really matter. It's poor technique, but in the end - who cares.

So it is OK for professionals to user PROGRAM now.. and let the camera do the work? Which means any moron with a decent camera that has a decent PROGRAM mode can call themselves a professional, after a month or two of learning how to use program mode?

I say that in PROGRAM mode.. it is the CAMERA being the professional, the monkey holding it is just a camera transport device.

(and we wonder why the profession has taken such a nose dive in quality, profitability, and reputation?)

pixmedic · Oct 10, 2012

I guess we are going back to how you have to use equipment to be considered a professional. I prefer aperture priority personally...sometimes shutter if i have moving objects. But since im not a pro, i guess i would be allowed to use program mode. Maybe i should set WB on auto too instead of picking my light source, but that would probably be cheating too.

2WheelPhoto · Oct 10, 2012

I may use aperture and shutter priorities to see an initial "whats the camera think in this situation - but the rare times i do a switch to "manual" quickly follows

tmjjk · Oct 10, 2012

I almost always shoot in priority mode... Sometimes shutter. I was a second shooter for this wedding and the main photog asked me to shoot in Program mode. I was just kidding about removing exif data from future images posted. This was my very first wedding... And it was a learning gig... The only money received was a very nice tip. The family was very happy with the pics... The main photogs images apparently "didn't turn out". Ouch Charlie.... A monkey???

unpopular · Oct 10, 2012

cgipson1 said:
unpopular said:

this is why I never used the "P for professional" mode.

Not being a professional I knew if I did the APA would fine me.

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but seriously Charles. You know this doesn't really matter. It's poor technique, but in the end - who cares.

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So it is OK for professionals to user PROGRAM now.. and let the camera do the work? Which means any moron with a decent camera that has a decent PROGRAM mode can call themselves a professional, after a month or two of learning how to use program mode?

I say that in PROGRAM mode.. it is the CAMERA being the professional, the monkey holding it is just a camera transport device.

(and we wonder why the profession has taken such a nose dive in quality, profitability, and reputation?)

I didn't mean that, more just that the customer isn't going to have the EXIF printed on the back. You're going to get more flexibility with proper AE or Manual mode, but no better pictures.

You know full well I never advocate Program mode, and strongly believe that people should completely understand manual photography before auto-anything - this includes auto-lens-changing (aka zoom lenses)

pixmedic · Oct 10, 2012

cgipson1 said:
So it is OK for professionals to user PROGRAM now.. and let the camera do the work? Which means any moron with a decent camera that has a decent PROGRAM mode can call themselves a professional, after a month or two of learning how to use program mode?

I say that in PROGRAM mode.. it is the CAMERA being the professional, the monkey holding it is just a camera transport device.

(and we wonder why the profession has taken such a nose dive in quality, profitability, and reputation?)

Is using program mode that much different from "getting it close enough" in camera and using software to fix the photo? Isnt that the program doing the work?

cgipson1 · Oct 10, 2012

pixmedic said:
cgipson1 said:

So it is OK for professionals to user PROGRAM now.. and let the camera do the work? Which means any moron with a decent camera that has a decent PROGRAM mode can call themselves a professional, after a month or two of learning how to use program mode?

I say that in PROGRAM mode.. it is the CAMERA being the professional, the monkey holding it is just a camera transport device.

(and we wonder why the profession has taken such a nose dive in quality, profitability, and reputation?)

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Is using program mode that much different from "getting it close enough" in camera and using software to fix the photo? Isnt that the program doing the work?

It takes skill and knowledge to get it right in camera (which is what a true professional should do). It takes skill and knowledge to properly use editing software to enhance photos.. again what a professional should be doing.

Using program mode, and charging for it... is a joke. Standard MWAC / Facebook PRO stuff. And as far as the fact goes that the OP didn't charge because this was a freebie for experience... what did she learn? That PROGRAM will get her KUDOS and the right to post in the professional gallery?

WOW... what a precedent to set!

Derrel · Oct 10, 2012

Might just be about time for a couple of glasses of calm-down bourbon over ice, methinks...

pixmedic · Oct 10, 2012

I dont know why this issue continues to make people mad. I dont personally know anyone that shoots in auto and charges. but if i did, i really wouldnt care about it because it doesnt affect me or my wifes business one bit. I like AP, the wife is more manual or SP and how we or anyone else shoots shouldnt have any effect on the rest of the photography world. It just makes the complainers sound pompus.