Sensual

Samerr9 · Oct 23, 2012

Hi guys..

Some more of my weekend session. Any comment is much appriciated.

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tirediron · Oct 23, 2012

I'm not sure if it's because this set is such a departure from other work you've posted or what, but it's not really "working" for me. The first one is the best IMO, but the over-bright lamp really grabs my eye... I'd also think about cloning out the reflection in the television set.

I like the lighting in the second, but the pose seems too contrived and uncomfortable, and the third, I'm sorry, it makes no sense to me. She's all done up in her frilly knickers why? To read the news on her iPad???? The lighting here really doesn't do it for me... the bright area far right and pinpoints through the curtains, with the mainly under-exposed subject... again, I'm looking everywhere but where I should be!

Samerr9 · Oct 23, 2012

tirediron said:
I'm not sure if it's because this set is such a departure from other work you've posted or what, but it's not really "working" for me. The first one is the best IMO, but the over-bright lamp really grabs my eye... I'd also think about cloning out the reflection in the television set.

I like the lighting in the second, but the pose seems too contrived and uncomfortable, and the third, I'm sorry, it makes no sense to me. She's all done up in her frilly knickers why? To read the news on her iPad???? The lighting here really doesn't do it for me... the bright area far right and pinpoints through the curtains, with the mainly under-exposed subject... again, I'm looking everywhere but where I should be!

Tirediron, Thanks again for your time commenting. As you said it is different than my ussual studio work. I did this session as a unpaid funshoot and to practice something new. The model was happy with the photos and I was. But when I posted here it seems I need to know more and I always like this forum because I learned alot from here.

I would kindly ask you and others a favour. I want to know what are your expectations in such a theme? I am askig this as help for the next time! What is the general feeling you want to see. I didn't want to do erotic, I was after glamour/sensual. Any feed back is much appriciated.

thanks again

tirediron · Oct 23, 2012

I don't know that I can really quantify it in terms of "expectations"; what I'm seeing with this set is that it doesn't seem to have your usual care and attention paid to the lighting and posing. I think all that's needed is more practice with this sort of thing.

Samerr9 · Oct 23, 2012

tirediron said:
I don't know that I can really quantify it in terms of "expectations"; what I'm seeing with this set is that it doesn't seem to have your usual care and attention paid to the lighting and posing. I think all that's needed is more practice with this sort of thing.

Hopefully will do better next time

Thanks again..

Mully · Oct 23, 2012

#1 and #3 are not working for me... #1 the lamp and the flash in the mirror are very distracting elements #3 I ask why does she have an iPad as a prop and she has no expression. #2 has possibilities shop the lamp cord and the stuff on the table....tone down the lamp ... and remove the book. Some smoke from the cigarette would be a nice touch.

Samerr9 · Oct 23, 2012

Mully said:
#1 and #3 are not working for me... #1 the lamp and the flash in the mirror are very distracting elements #3 I ask why does she have an iPad as a prop and she has no expression. #2 has possibilities shop the lamp cord and the stuff on the table....tone down the lamp ... and remove the book. Some smoke from the cigarette would be a nice touch.

Thank you for your comment and notes Mully.. All noted and will work on that soon

Designer · Oct 23, 2012

Samerr9 said:
I want to know what are your expectations in such a theme?

As for me, I think the model is too "self-absorbed" to be "sensual". When I think of "sensual", I think of the model being totally interested in ME, not her mirror, a cigarette, and a book.

Does not work for me.

kathyt · Oct 23, 2012

I really like #2 and I agree with Mully that a smoke ring or smoke in general would have really added to this shot. I am not feeling #1 at all and I think it is because of the combination of light sources paired with the reflection of the tv or something. #3 had potential if the light source behind her head was not so strong and the rest of her leg was in the shot. So maybe if her head was propped back and her legs were crossed up on the back of the couch with no i-Pad? Almost like she is waiting for her man but he never showed up. That a..hole!

Samerr9 · Oct 26, 2012

Designer said:
Samerr9 said:

I want to know what are your expectations in such a theme?

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As for me, I think the model is too "self-absorbed" to be "sensual". When I think of "sensual", I think of the model being totally interested in ME, not her mirror, a cigarette, and a book.

Does not work for me.

Good point, I will ask them to think of me more than her when shooting next time

That is really helpful

kathythorson said:
I really like #2 and I agree with Mully that a smoke ring or smoke in general would have really added to this shot. I am not feeling #1 at all and I think it is because of the combination of light sources paired with the reflection of the tv or something. #3 had potential if the light source behind her head was not so strong and the rest of her leg was in the shot. So maybe if her head was propped back and her legs were crossed up on the back of the couch with no i-Pad? Almost like she is waiting for her man but he never showed up. That a..hole!

Also will be concentrating more on the man not comming theme next time.

Thank you all for the comments.

Thanasis_gs · Oct 27, 2012

Well, the comments above are constructive and right.
I won't comment about the technical aspects of the photography - gentlemen and ladies above know better than me and I agree with them. I just want to say, that the whole concept is nice and when you will apply those opinions in your shooting, the result will be fantastic. Anyway, nice shots and keep going!

pgriz · Oct 27, 2012

If you're going to do "sensual", I see two possible directions: either you explore the form, in which case the background and surroundings are superfluous (or at the very least, not taking away from the image), or you create a scenario in which it makes sense to see a person in a state of undress. But to be effective, we need to "buy into" the scenario and play out the storyline for ourselves. In the latter case, the model's expressions are part of the story and should be consistent with what we think we are seeing.

I associate "sensual" with some mystery, of a hint of things to come. It's appearing to reveal, without revealing. It's an image that allows the viewer's imagination to imagine scenarios and possibilites, that may be hinted at with the image. When you really get down to it, the biggest sex organ is the brain, and it's how our mental projections and fantasies that endow a person with the impression of "sensual". It's a bit like makeup - too much and it's garish, too little, and no-one's going to notice. May your next shoot get you closer to where you want to be.

invisible · Oct 27, 2012

I really like #2, contrived or not. Mully mentioned smoke and I agree 100%. It looks like the cigarette is not lit, which even if you're not a fan of smoke creates a feeling of artificiality.

Also, all three images seem to have a strong yellow cast. If you don't mind, I can post a quick edit of one of the images so you can see what I mean.

Samerr9 · Oct 28, 2012

Thanasis_gs said:
Well, the comments above are constructive and right.
I won't comment about the technical aspects of the photography - gentlemen and ladies above know better than me and I agree with them. I just want to say, that the whole concept is nice and when you will apply those opinions in your shooting, the result will be fantastic. Anyway, nice shots and keep going!

Thank you for commenting.. Hopefully next time will be a better try

pgriz said:
If you're going to do "sensual", I see two possible directions: either you explore the form, in which case the background and surroundings are superfluous (or at the very least, not taking away from the image), or you create a scenario in which it makes sense to see a person in a state of undress. But to be effective, we need to "buy into" the scenario and play out the storyline for ourselves. In the latter case, the model's expressions are part of the story and should be consistent with what we think we are seeing.

I associate "sensual" with some mystery, of a hint of things to come. It's appearing to reveal, without revealing. It's an image that allows the viewer's imagination to imagine scenarios and possibilites, that may be hinted at with the image. When you really get down to it, the biggest sex organ is the brain, and it's how our mental projections and fantasies that endow a person with the impression of "sensual". It's a bit like makeup - too much and it's garish, too little, and no-one's going to notice. May your next shoot get you closer to where you want to be.

I totallt agree and you are right. We were trying many themes many expressions.. nothing planned or played. Promise will do better next time

invisible said:
I really like #2, contrived or not. Mully mentioned smoke and I agree 100%. It looks like the cigarette is not lit, which – even if you're not a fan of smoke – creates a feeling of artificiality.

Also, all three images seem to have a strong yellow cast. If you don't mind, I can post a quick edit of one of the images so you can see what I mean.

Unfortunately I am a smoker and this was my cigaret

and she doesn't smoke lol I agree that smoke will add to the image but it is difficult to photograph it. I tried before in a studio session earlier and it was almost not there.. I had to work alot of photoshop to add it to the client's photos.

The yellow cast, I thought it is creative! No one liked it

I am Ok with editing my photos.