some doubts Nikon or Canon

[CyberManiaK]

Hi well I was shooting with sony a300, now i will switch to canon or nikon actually i don't know wich one will suit me better.

On the operation side i have this questions.

I read on the manual of the D7k and D90 that to change the exposure compensation/ISO you have to keep pressed the button then use the dial wheel. This can be changed ? to press once release and then use the dial ?

On the Canon 60D I read *what i understand* that for EC you have to press the shutter button half, and then use the rear wheel to change it. I find this a little weird, this could be assigned to a button ? On the ISO I understand that you have to press once, right ?

Now on the AF department. I will be shooting offroad racing.

Which one you think can keep the track on the cars/bikes, D7000 or 60D or the d90 could do it ? My understand would be the d7k can do it better, because of the 39 AF points, however i don't know if those are more just a gimick and the real usefull points would be the 9 cross-points which put the d7k on pair with the 60D

Also I will be doing landscape (with filters) and product shots. In this department i dont have any doubt,any of the three will do it excelent.

At first I had my eyes on the d7000 but I found *think are* some very good deals right now. D90 with 18-105 +70-300 VR $1358, Canon 60D 18-135 + 55-250 IS for $1298. Or the msrp d7000 kit for 1499.

Unfortunately i can't try the d7000 or the 60d in hand, right now i'm Mexico, and here arent available, so i will be doing my purchase online, but i'm affraid that if i take to long on choosing i might lose the deals. (I'm moving to the states in a month)

My max budget for the initial purchase will be around 1500 usd. Later I will change kit lenses for some faster ones, but I will have to keep the kit lenses for at least 4-5 months.

Just for reference my ex-gear was Sony A300, Tamron 17-50/2.8, 50/1.7,70-210 F4,28/2.8,Macro 50 F2.8, Flash F58AM, 2* 5400 xi.

Any input will be gladly appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[BuS_RiDeR]

Hold them in your hand... The one that feels most comfortable wins.

Both Canon and Nikon make great cameras and lenses. Some people prefer one over the other... blah blah blah. Its an ongoing battle and will likely always be.

I personally chose Canon. Mainly because my original SLR was a 35mm film based Canon Rebel and I wanted to use the lenses from it on my 50D.

 

[Stradawhovious]

I don't know whether or not the exposure comp settings can be changed, but the way the camera is designed, it is almost a non issue. Very simple to use, and for me, with a comfortable natural grip, the button is right under the index finger of my strong hand, and the wheel is right under my thumb. After using it once or twice, its second nature.

Granted I'm doing this on a D3000, not a D90, but the buttons in question seem to be in the same spots on both bodies, but I haven't found a way that the settings can be changed on the D3000. Nor would I if they could be after using it a couple of times.

 

[mjhoward]

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[Derrel]

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[bentcountershaft]

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With Christmas coming I would expect more and more of these.

 

[KmH]

Hold them in your hand... The one that feels most comfortable wins....

Since we humans have opposable thumbs and such deft dexterity, saying to choose based on how they feel in your hand lacks candor and is misleading.

Camera features, functions, and technical performance are vastly more important than a comfortable feel in the hand.

In fact, cameras in the same camera maker's lineup will feel different in the hand.

 

[Derrel]

Hold them in your hand... The one that feels most comfortable wins....

Since we humans have opposable thumbs and such deft dexterity, saying to choose based on how they feel in your hand lacks candor and is misleading.

Camera features, functions, and technical performance are vastly more important than a comfortable feel in the hand.

In fact, cameras in the same camera maker's lineup will feel different in the hand.

I do not agree with you on two of the three comments you make in this post, KmH...I think that camera "feel" is a big factor in user satisfaction, and the actual ergonomics AND control systems used on a camera body make a big difference in how that camera will function. My opinion is that "some" cameras have decidedly better ergonomics and better control inputs than "other" cameras. Once a person gets to the level of advanced user, or demanding user, the camera ergonomics and control systems become a big factor. For the point and press the button crowd using only the in-built pop-up flash and a kit lens, ergonomics and controls except for the ON/OFF switch and the shutter release button and the CF card trap door are not of much importance.

 

[CyberManiaK]

Hold them in your hand... The one that feels most comfortable wins.

Both Canon and Nikon make great cameras and lenses. Some people prefer one over the other... blah blah blah. Its an ongoing battle and will likely always be.

I personally chose Canon. Mainly because my original SLR was a 35mm film based Canon Rebel and I wanted to use the lenses from it on my 50D.

Thanks. But as I already said in my previous post, I'm in Mexico right now, they arent available here. so I have to make the purchase online if i want to take advantage of those deals, i'm not new on with DSLR i have been shooting with one for 2 years, i know holding in hand is the best thing I could do. but that will be useless for me, because I need to try tracking subjects and i will not be able to take them out of the store to test them

I don't know whether or not the exposure comp settings can be changed, but the way the camera is designed, it is almost a non issue. Very simple to use, and for me, with a comfortable natural grip, the button is right under the index finger of my strong hand, and the wheel is right under my thumb. After using it once or twice, its second nature.

Granted I'm doing this on a D3000, not a D90, but the buttons in question seem to be in the same spots on both bodies, but I haven't found a way that the settings can be changed on the D3000. Nor would I if they could be after using it a couple of times.

Yeah i know EC can be changed, however you know if you have to keep pressing the button while rotating the dial? or just had to be presed once ?

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Can you tell me where is another thread like mine ? I'm asking about operation of each camera and how it performs on tracking subjects in movement !! If you read my post i'm not asking which one is better with out knowing MY NEEDS. I thought I was very specific. i already know that both brands have excellent IQ,lens,etc.. but don't know in tracking subjects.

Darrel. the 50 1.8 is a very fragile lens. I'm already aware of that lol

Thanks everybody.

 

[Stradawhovious]

I don't know whether or not the exposure comp settings can be changed, but the way the camera is designed, it is almost a non issue. Very simple to use, and for me, with a comfortable natural grip, the button is right under the index finger of my strong hand, and the wheel is right under my thumb. After using it once or twice, its second nature.

Granted I'm doing this on a D3000, not a D90, but the buttons in question seem to be in the same spots on both bodies, but I haven't found a way that the settings can be changed on the D3000. Nor would I if they could be after using it a couple of times.

Yeah i know EC can be changed, however you know if you have to keep pressing the button while rotating the dial? or just had to be presed once ?

Yes. The button has to be held down while turning the knob. What I was trying to relay is that I don't know that it can be changed to pressing just once, instead of having to hold it down.

 

[KmH]

.....Once a person gets to the level of advanced user, or demanding user, the camera ergonomics and control systems become a big factor. For the point and press the button crowd using only the in-built pop-up flash and a kit lens, ergonomics and controls except for the ON/OFF switch and the shutter release button and the CF card trap door are not of much importance.

Of course, but the "Hold them in your hand... The one that feels most comfortable wins" comment is most often offered to the users it least applies to.

I was careful to add "In fact, cameras in the same camera maker's lineup will feel different in the hand.", which is where the actual ergonomics and control buttons/switches comes into play.

 

[sobolik]

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Imagine that. People actually asking photography questions on a photography forum. Perhaps you would approve of having to approve of the approved questions before allowing them to be approved.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

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Imagine that. People actually asking photography questions on a photography forum. Perhaps you would approve of having to approve of the approved questions before allowing them to be approved.

Why so judgemental Sobo?
I quoted this one, in case you decide to delete it like you did your last jab at someone.



To the OP, you have to really compare features to see which is best suited for your needs. Rank your needs as far as what is a must, and what might be "nice". Do you want to sacrifice your must for a few "nices"?

 

[mrpink]

Just for reference my ex-gear was Sony A300, Tamron 17-50/2.8, 50/1.7,70-210 F4,28/2.8,Macro 50 F2.8, Flash F58AM, 2* 5400 xi.

Any input will be gladly appreciated.

Thanks.

What is causing the switch? Seems like you have a pretty decent setup to me.

Get the D7000. The weather sealed body is going to keep dust and debris out of it when you are trackside.







p!nK

 

[CyberManiaK]

To the OP, you have to really compare features to see which is best suited for your needs. Rank your needs as far as what is a must, and what might be "nice". Do you want to sacrifice your must for a few "nices"?

I have done that. My needs will be tracking cars racing offroad in a friendly budget. So that narrow it down to the D7000 and 60D. That's why i'm asking which one will increase my keepers while paning. I have done some drag racing pics i/e this ones where done with the A300 + 70-210 F4.

So the question is which AF focus system will be best suited, the 9 crosspoints of the 60D or the 9 crosspoints of the d7000 I know that the d7k has also 39 points mode. But I feel that those are well suited for birds on fly, because there will not be any elements on the background/forground that can "distract" the focus points.

Just for reference my ex-gear was Sony A300, Tamron 17-50/2.8, 50/1.7,70-210 F4,28/2.8,Macro 50 F2.8, Flash F58AM, 2* 5400 xi.

Any input will be gladly appreciated.

Thanks.

What is causing the switch? Seems like you have a pretty decent setup to me.

Get the D7000. The weather sealed body is going to keep dust and debris out of it when you are trackside.


p!nK

Well i'm switching because i don't like SLT technology that sony just introduced, and the lack of the A700 replacement, and now I need a better focus system.

Well the 60D also has basic weather sealing like the d7000 does Canon EOS 60D Digital Camera - Initial Test - The Imaging Resource!

I see that you have the d90, you know if the exposure compensation can be programed to press just once the +/- button and then rotate the dial ? or always has to be pressed ?

Thanks everybody.