Sony Alpha 57 is no joke Canon and Nikon folks!!

The a57 kit is going for $750. That's right around the same range as other companies high entry level. The a77 is about the price of everyone mid range. Don't act like the cameras are such a steal because they have phase detection in live view. They aren't bad. If you love them great. I don't.

 

Now I still see an older Sony in my future. Throw a beer can on it and I have a great affordable cheap but good quality disposable telephoto system.

 

The a580 was a traditional DSLR with a reflex mirror.

 

Honestly, there is plenty of headroom to upgrade any entry level camera with either Canon, Nikon or Sony without needing to go to pro glass and body. For the vast majority of consumer, these will be good enough and way beyond their abilities.

It's the technique, not the gear right ?

 

I think in my case it is. I picked up my A33 with the kit lens for $550. No DSLR in that price range can touch it. But you're right, once you go beyond that prices start to level out.

 

Agreed. I think it's funny so many non "pros" use that argument. Pro level equipment I would guess is a smaller market than consumer like anything else.

 

Yes. A real pro can shoot action in low light with an iPhone !!! :lmao:

But yeah, if you give a great photographer an iPhone and a complete n00b a medium format highend camera, the photographer will come back with the much better pictures.

 

Black and white was your example, I was simply demonstrating how ridiculous your were being. We can revisit the question now if you'd like. I'm a degreed Electrical Engineer and Software Developer whom has owned his own home and cars for a while now... all paid for by me. Way to not make assumptions.

 

I guess having myself worked for an F1 team, the F1 example didn't feel so far fetched...

Regardless of the activity, pro level equipment are rarely appropriate for the average enthusiast. In photography in particular, I'll agree the pro gear is better and significant. But as an engineer, you can appreciate the concept of "good enough" for a given application.

Assuming that a path to FF and pro glass applies for everybody is wrong. Building up do FF through APS-C gear is actually a big waste of money considering the availability of used equipment.

 

Yes...a broader view.
Light systems like Profoto Air series are PW compatible. Sony isn't even compatible with the Skyport system on the elinchrom. Metz, Sigma...and Nissin flashes Yeeech!
Why PW? Cuz it's the industry standard. You buy it once...and just use it for decades. It's even compatible with my Sekonic lightmeter.

 

Back in my day, we used knobs! Dabnabbit all this new fangled technology!

Still, I think it's funny that people complain about Sony's proprietary stuff when dealing with Pocketwizard, which is a proprietary technology. Seems like there really should be an open protocol for this sort of thing.

 

Do some more research and then come back and you can add better insight to this debate.