Sony rx1 or Canon 6d with sigma 35mm 1.4

[usayit]

There were some really successful fixed lens film cameras back in the day... don't really understand the contempt for one now. Of course, its a niche camera but it doesn't necessarily translate to a failed one.

A fixed lens camera has some distinct advantages that cannot be realized in a system that has its designs rooted in an interchangeable lens mount. Often this means a leaf shutter for example.

RX1 specifically has produced some impressive samples online.... It sync's up to 1/4000th ... what's the sync speed of the Canon?



I'm considering one but it would mean passing up on a 35mm lens I've been eyeing. With appropriate savings, I can see owning two of such type of camera: 35mm and 50mm flavors.




I sense Tyler's maturity towards the RX1 has more to do with the Sony branding than the actually design.

 

[o hey tyler]

A fixed lens camera has some distinct advantages that cannot be realized in a system that has its designs rooted in an interchangeable lens mount.

Well, I trust that you can tell me the advantages... Since you've had experience with both I'd reckon. I would be interested to learn the advantages Mr. Sayit.

 

[usayit]

You can look it up if you can get pass your already formulated preconceived notions and biases.

Here's two to get you started.

1) Leaf Shutter (hint: I already mentioned max sync speed)
2) Sonnar optical design.

 

[o hey tyler]

You can look it up if you can get pass your already formulated preconceived notions and biases.

Here's two to get you started.

1) Leaf Shutter (hint: I already mentioned max sync speed)
2) Sonnar optical design.

I agree that the leaf shutter is nice, but it's only attainable with a 35mm f/2 lens on a full frame sensor? Kind of wide for most work that would involve syncing a lot of flashes at a fast shutter speed.

Sonnar optical design means very little to me. It was designed to be small and offer a fast aperture. The 28/1.8 sonnar is neither small nor blazingly fast. Are there better examples of to why this would be a benefit?

 

[Sw1tchFX]

I would do the 6D myself..That siggy 35 is insane.

 

[dxqcanada]

I personally would like an optically great 35mm lens on a full frame compact camera ... hmm.
One of the reason's I have an Olympus XA (and have had numerous other cameras with fixed lenses).
I walk around with a 24mm on my APS-C most of the time.

I can see what usayit is saying ... and I can see what you are saying ... but the target audience for the Sony RX1 is not you.
usayit and I (if I could afford it) would buy this camera because of the fixed leaf shutter lens (and other properties), which to many photographers does not make any sense and a waste of money. Difficult to explain ... though usayit may attempt to do so.

 

[usayit]

I agree that the leaf shutter is nice, but it's only attainable with a 35mm f/2 lens on a full frame sensor? Kind of wide for most work that would involve syncing a lot of flashes at a fast shutter speed.

Sonnar optical design means very little to me. It was designed to be small and offer a fast aperture. The 28/1.8 sonnar is neither small nor blazingly fast. Are there better examples of to why this would be a benefit?

There is a lot more to an optic than simply specs on paper...... Some of the greatest lenses are slower than f/1.4.




Some designs appeal to me. Others do not.... I may express an opinion why. But I do not down talk them nor those that like them. I also like to learn about something before judging them.

 

[o hey tyler]

There is a lot more to an optic than simply specs on paper...... Some of the greatest lenses are slower than f/1.4.

Some designs appeal to me. Others do not.... I may express an opinion why. But I do not down talk them nor those that like them. I also like to learn about something before judging them.

I'm not down talking lenses or people that like small cameras. I was legitimately interested in the "why" of the RX1 and you were able to shed some light on it.

 

[dxqcanada]

Maybe this might shed some light .... Sony RX1 Review
or maybe not.

 

[usayit]

He is usually a bit enthusiastic but some info here

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/all-reviews/mirrorless-central/

 

[gsgary]

Just think about all the toilets he could have flushed in all the different locations on the planet with that amount of money. He could flush a few toilets at the equator to see if there's no swirl at all.

:mrgreen:

Dont worry he goes all over the World

 

[gsgary]

Yes ... and no.
gsgary's friend would have the Sony as a cheap pocket camera ... I think that is the target audience for the RX1 (though I would like one also).

He uses a Panasonic G1 and loves it

 

[Sarmad]

Buy a Canon 6D, with a fast lens and try to get a wide angle as soon as possible, For me that would do the job fine. But one thing I like in Sony is that it has extremely low size as compared to 6D, That may help you in taking shots in places where you're not allowed :greenpbl:. You mentioned that you'd do street photography!

 

[gsgary]

You can look it up if you can get pass your already formulated preconceived notions and biases.

Here's two to get you started.

1) Leaf Shutter (hint: I already mentioned max sync speed)
2) Sonnar optical design.

I agree that the leaf shutter is nice, but it's only attainable with a 35mm f/2 lens on a full frame sensor? Kind of wide for most work that would involve syncing a lot of flashes at a fast shutter speed.

Sonnar optical design means very little to me. It was designed to be small and offer a fast aperture. The 28/1.8 sonnar is neither small nor blazingly fast. Are there better examples of to why this would be a benefit?

What about shooting skate boarding, skiing, BMX, dance, lots of things you could shoot with 1/4000 sinc, i'm only shooting 28mm with my M4 and it does not restrict me one bit

 

[gsgary]

He is usually a bit enthusiastic but some info here

Mirrorless Central – My reviews of all Mirrorless Cameras | STEVE HUFF PHOTOS

I'm getting one, it beats the D4,D800,5Dmk3