I rest my case. You ignored the question and instead regurgitated more of the same old song and dance that is out of tune and by now out of fashion.
You indicate that only Painting, Sculpture, Architecture & Engraving are the only fine arts and it is not matter for debate. Says who. Show me the proof.
PUT UP or SHUT UP.
You bragged in another thread of having your masters in philosophy and now you lay claim to the exclusive knowledge of the use of words in their proper manner. Do you have a degree inlinguistics as well? Do you also write thesis' on linguistics? Funny, I don't remember linguistics in my philosophy class.
I also don't remember seeing you as one of the contributors to the Oxford English Dictionary. I actually find your reference laughable in regards to the meaning of words since you have blatantly ignored the accepted meanings posted by others in this thread.
The language we Americans call English is one of the poorest languages on the face of the planet for pure communication. However one word that has not lost it's meaning over the span of time or continents is hypocrite.
The fact that you cannot or will not accept that which has already been accepted and defined is irrelevant. Your pseudo intellectualism is boorish and frankly what you espouse is nothing more than piffle and balderdash. The fact that you try to create meaning to your own liking does not make them true.
Or to put it in terms that anyone who live in the 60's in the U.S. could relate. You are the
Dr. Zachary Smith of this thread.
Sorry, the remake movie just doesn't live up to the television show in my opinion, however the special effects were spectacular.
It so happens I have published two articles on translation theory in Semiotica, and am well read in semiotics. I am also working on translations of three books on Nietzsche.
Ok, so what do you see Semiotics as. From my understanding of Semiotics it is no so much an academic discipline
, but rather a field of study utilizing various theoretical avenues. Theoretical, meaning it is based upon theory or speculation. Speculation, meaning an assumption or belief.
If you have reason to doubt my claims to competence, please announce them now.
As to your competence in philosophy or semiotics, frankly I don't know, nor do I care. You offer no proof, just claims. Frankly however, neither have much meaning in the function of the real world.
As you you competence to be self appointed prosecutor, judge and jury as to what is and is not Art.
Yes, as in an affirmative reply, I doubt you competence to this self proclaimed lofty title.
If you want some insight, please read the opening introduction to History of Art by Janson. The first thing he says is that at the very least art is something tangible made by human hands.
That disqualifies photography right off the bat.
I have repeated this here in this thread many times.
If you want some insight please read this: A small beginning excerpt.
Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way to affect the senses or emotions. It encompasses a diverse range of human activities, creations, and modes of expression, including music, literature, film, photography, sculpture, and paintings
The whole article:
art - Google Search
Perhaps you should go here:
Art cyclopedia: The Fine Art Search Engine. They seem fit to include Ansel Adams and many other accomplished photographers as Artists.
The Art Institute of Chicago. A learned institution, hall of Academia, and well know Museum seems to include photography as one of their Artistic Courses of study.
The Art Institute of Chicago
Perhaps you should check out the Fall 2010 curriculum at the New York University Institute of Fine Art.
IFA | NYU - About the Institute They seem to included photography in their curriculum.
Would you like to go on trading citations? If, according to your reasoning, citations make it true, then by the sheer volume here apparently ole H. W. Janson was wrong back in 1962 when he published is book. The above, more modern citations qualifies photography right off the bat.
I will agree with you on one thing however, you have doggedly repeated your OPINION numerous times in this thread. An opinion overwhelmingly not shared by others as is apparent by the responses in this thread.
