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[compur]

Charles Shaw is the ‘overstock’ from some very fine wineries. (The better wineries will only bottle a finite amount of wine, law of supply and demand, in order to keep higher pricing. The wineries will sell off the excess.)

Charles Shaw wines come from one winery: Bronco Wine Company in Ceres, CA They specializes in low cost product. The CEO of Bronco is related to Ernest Gallo.

You can read about how they keep their costs down here:
The real reasons Trader Joe's wine is so cheap

 

[Gary A.]

Charles Shaw is the ‘overstock’ from some very fine wineries. (The better wineries will only bottle a finite amount of wine, law of supply and demand, in order to keep higher pricing. The wineries will sell off the excess.)

Charles Shaw wines come from one winery: Bronco Wine Company in Ceres, CA They specializes in low cost product. The CEO of Bronco is related to Ernest Gallo.

You can read about how they keep their costs down here:
The real reasons Trader Joe's wine is so cheap

Gary didn’t know that. Thanks.

Gary is sipping an EOS Zinfandel ...Paso, so good. If you like wine, lets hook up at a winery, doing some tasting and shooting.

 

[davidharmier60]

Morning y'all. That's all I got.

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[JonA_CT]

Edit: And I know the new season of Orange Is The New Black is out, but I am not emotionally ready for that show yet. It will leave me feeling like a wrung-out dishtowel and I already kind of feel that way these days, so no. Not ready.

Good call. The first few episodes took me a long time to process and get through. They were absolutely brutal.

 

[jcdeboever]

Princess is home watching a movie with the latest version of He’s Not My Boyfriend and a couple of other guys and girls. I was informed the other day that they are officially “dating” whatever that means in high school these days... I’m hoping it means sitting next to each other and texting hearts and smiley faces.

I guess I’ll need to come up with a new nickname for him. How about Dingo Trying to Steal My Baby? Boy Wonder? Prince Charming?

oh boy, you don't want to know what my nickname is for him.... ok, you do....Woody

 

[snowbear136 67]

He’d Better Not is a great play on He’s Not My Boyfriend.

 

[Dean_Gretsch]

I live along a river...I usually just stood on the front porch, casually pointing at the view and whispering " It carries bodies away nicely...".

 

[Gary A.]

I live along a river...I usually just stood on the front porch, casually pointing at the view and whispering " It carries bodies away nicely...".

If you want to get graphic ... "Look maggot, laying a hand on Princess will piss off me and her Uncle Vince. He just got out, but he's more then willing to spent another five years for beating the crap out maggots like you, who are less than a perfect gentleman with Princess."

 

[JonA_CT]

I live along a river...I usually just stood on the front porch, casually pointing at the view and whispering " It carries bodies away nicely...".

If you want to get graphic ... "Look maggot, laying a hand on Princess will piss off me and her Uncle Vince. He just got out, but he's more then willing to spent another five years for beating the crap out maggots like you, who are less than a perfect gentleman with Princess."

Around here, you might just have to whisper "Have you met my brother Vinny from Staten Island?"

 

[Gary A.]

I live along a river...I usually just stood on the front porch, casually pointing at the view and whispering " It carries bodies away nicely...".

If you want to get graphic ... "Look maggot, laying a hand on Princess will piss off me and her Uncle Vince. He just got out, but he's more then willing to spent another five years for beating the crap out maggots like you, who are less than a perfect gentleman with Princess."

Around here, you might just have to whisper "Have you met my brother Vinny from Staten Island?"

Naahhh ... these are high school kids. You have to just get in their face and:

1. tell 'em what you gonna tell 'em.
2. tell 'em.
3. tell 'em what you told them.

 

[terri54]

Charles Shaw is the ‘overstock’ from some very fine wineries. (The better wineries will only bottle a finite amount of wine, law of supply and demand, in order to keep higher pricing. The wineries will sell off the excess.)

Charles Shaw wines come from one winery: Bronco Wine Company in Ceres, CA They specializes in low cost product. The CEO of Bronco is related to Ernest Gallo.

You can read about how they keep their costs down here:
The real reasons Trader Joe's wine is so cheap

Agreed. The majority of wine sold at local TJ's is utter swill. It's leftover product from grapes cooked in high heat, reducing actual acid in the grapes so you get thin, jammy flavors which are tossed together with zero thought to actual winemaking craft. Anyone who resorts to tossing oak chips into steel vats to "improve" flavor is only interested in pawning high-yield/low quality crap on unsuspecting wannabe wine enthusiasts who have yet to develop actual palates. Though this bogus trick is practiced regularly now, it started with the likes of Two-Buck Chuck in CA. If you want quality wine produced by winemakers who actually care about craft, look to Spain, southern Rhone Valley/France, and Italy, for starters. These are wines produced from small-yield vineyards, and you can still get good prices on the vast majority of it. CA can produce decent wines, but you'd think from the prices that they were imported from halfway around the world. It's nonsense and they've turned it into little more than a quantity-over-quality racket out there.

 

[Dean_Gretsch]

Charles Shaw is the ‘overstock’ from some very fine wineries. (The better wineries will only bottle a finite amount of wine, law of supply and demand, in order to keep higher pricing. The wineries will sell off the excess.)

Charles Shaw wines come from one winery: Bronco Wine Company in Ceres, CA They specializes in low cost product. The CEO of Bronco is related to Ernest Gallo.

You can read about how they keep their costs down here:
The real reasons Trader Joe's wine is so cheap

Agreed. The majority of wine sold at local TJ's is utter swill. It's leftover product from grapes cooked in high heat, reducing actual acid in the grapes so you get thin, jammy flavors which are tossed together with zero thought to actual winemaking craft. Anyone who resorts to tossing oak chips into steel vats to "improve" flavor is only interested in pawning high-yield/low quality crap on unsuspecting wannabe wine enthusiasts who have yet to develop actual palates. Though this bogus trick is practiced regularly now, it started with the likes of Two-Buck Chuck in CA. If you want quality wine produced by winemakers who actually care about craft, look to Spain, southern Rhone Valley/France, and Italy, for starters. These are wines produced from small-yield vineyards, and you can still get good prices on the vast majority of it. CA can produce decent wines, but you'd think from the prices that they were imported from halfway around the world. It's nonsense and they've turned it into little more than a quantity-over-quality racket out there.

But, were they innovative enough to see the need for " the box "? Having a package solution that won't roll away in a tremor has to be worth much!

 

[SquarePeg]

I live along a river...I usually just stood on the front porch, casually pointing at the view and whispering " It carries bodies away nicely...".

If you want to get graphic ... "Look maggot, laying a hand on Princess will piss off me and her Uncle Vince. He just got out, but he's more then willing to spent another five years for beating the crap out maggots like you, who are less than a perfect gentleman with Princess."

This is funny because my brother’s nickname is Don Franco (a family joke, he’s not connected) and we call his BFF Paulie Two Toes (he might have some juice). I had them stare down some Wannabe beaus on our family cruise last year. They were a bit buzzed and took it very seriously - Princess was less than amused.

 

[Gary A.]

Charles Shaw is the ‘overstock’ from some very fine wineries. (The better wineries will only bottle a finite amount of wine, law of supply and demand, in order to keep higher pricing. The wineries will sell off the excess.)

Charles Shaw wines come from one winery: Bronco Wine Company in Ceres, CA They specializes in low cost product. The CEO of Bronco is related to Ernest Gallo.

You can read about how they keep their costs down here:
The real reasons Trader Joe's wine is so cheap

Agreed. The majority of wine sold at local TJ's is utter swill. It's leftover product from grapes cooked in high heat, reducing actual acid in the grapes so you get thin, jammy flavors which are tossed together with zero thought to actual winemaking craft. Anyone who resorts to tossing oak chips into steel vats to "improve" flavor is only interested in pawning high-yield/low quality crap on unsuspecting wannabe wine enthusiasts who have yet to develop actual palates. Though this bogus trick is practiced regularly now, it started with the likes of Two-Buck Chuck in CA. If you want quality wine produced by winemakers who actually care about craft, look to Spain, southern Rhone Valley/France, and Italy, for starters. These are wines produced from small-yield vineyards, and you can still get good prices on the vast majority of it. CA can produce decent wines, but you'd think from the prices that they were imported from halfway around the world. It's nonsense and they've turned it into little more than a quantity-over-quality racket out there.

There is bad wine made everywhere ... there is good wine made in a lot of places ... there is great wine made only in a few places.

Gary agrees the better wines in California are very overpriced ... but head to head, the moderately priced California wines will, more often than not, beat equally priced wines in Europe. The better wines are priced to the market ... Californians are willing to overpay for their vino. As a Californian, Gary has a household full of wonderful, overpriced Californian wine.

 

[waday]

beat equally priced wines in Europe

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