The oddity of online photo posting

[gsgary]

Why don't you start a print exchange thread, thats what we do on other forums

sounds like work

I'm in the darkroom tomorrow night printing for a print exchange

 

[bribrius]

Likes, +1s, Faves. They're addictive. They're also incredibly harmful.

Mainly, people who partake of photography-related-social-networking hand out approval or disapproval based on whether or not they like the photographer personally. The personal like or dislike may or may not be based in part of liking some photographs made by that photographer in the past.

If you make a couple of OK pictures, and hand out approval to like-minded people like candy, they will generally reciprocate, because they're human, and because that it how the game is played. After a while it simply becomes a case of 'Oh it's that guy! Great shot, love your work, as always!' as a spinal reflex.

People rarely actually *look* at photos they see online.

• Pretty girl? +1 great shot!
• My friend Susie? Great shot!
• That one guy who gave me a +Disagree? Terrible shot, the... thing.. totally draws my eye and kills the shot!

Actually looking at an image and trying to make sense of it it work, so mostly what we get is "I like it" or "I don't like it" which is, all to often "I like you" or "I don't like you".

this is about the only reason i have considered putting stuff in juried shows. The names aren't seen. It is anonymous. Judged by people that hopefully have some credentials. It is more REAL. Also i saw some info on one the other day that limited post processing to slight contrast, color etc. adjustments.
i was tickled pink when i saw that. I don't know if that is the start of a new trend limiting post processing but i think it is a FANTASTIC idea.

 

[Fred Berg]

Likes, +1s, Faves. They're addictive. They're also incredibly harmful.

Mainly, people who partake of photography-related-social-networking hand out approval or disapproval based on whether or not they like the photographer personally. The personal like or dislike may or may not be based in part of liking some photographs made by that photographer in the past.

If you make a couple of OK pictures, and hand out approval to like-minded people like candy, they will generally reciprocate, because they're human, and because that it how the game is played. After a while it simply becomes a case of 'Oh it's that guy! Great shot, love your work, as always!' as a spinal reflex.

People rarely actually *look* at photos they see online.

• Pretty girl? +1 great shot!
• My friend Susie? Great shot!
• That one guy who gave me a +Disagree? Terrible shot, the... thing.. totally draws my eye and kills the shot!

Actually looking at an image and trying to make sense of it it work, so mostly what we get is "I like it" or "I don't like it" which is, all to often "I like you" or "I don't like you".

Quite a lot of mutual ego stroking occurs on the internet, and this is a shame. It makes the mind boggle sometimes at the rave revues mediocrity receives - merely because of who it was posted by.

Photography, just like politics, is often more concerned with personalities rather than proficiency.

 

[photoguy99]

It's disappointing from both sides.

If you're not well known or well liked, you get a bunch of nitpicking from people who think that "critique" is about finding things wrong with images.
If you're popular and well liked, then you get a bunch of positive feedback no matter what you post.

Neither is of much use. The first is falsely demoralizing, the second is equally falsely uplifting.

 

[The_Traveler]

I post pictures for several reasons:because I like when people like my pictures because, if I'm going to make comments about other people's pictures, I think its only fair that I let my own work be available for comment.

Public exhibitions don't mean too much, if anything, to me because most of the relatively few people who see work in person have zero idea of what good work is and so their approval means nothing to me.

I obviously can't speak for anyone else but I can tell you why I don't look at your work. You don't respect what you do enough to submit finished work, you deflect any comments by saying that your work is just 'stuff' that you threw up here. Clearly you have no respect for what many of us are trying to do and thus I have no interest in anything you do.

 

[Overread]

Eh you get the same thing in clubs. The regular judges will have credentials, but they'll also favour styles and/or subjects. Clubs will also do the same (just like a forum does); plus if you shoot with any style chances are even without your name attached people will start to work out what shots are likely to come from which person.

In the end there is no such thing as 100% pure critique. Indeed I would say that to remove all human elements of bias, taste, experience, etc... you would get comments that could only be technical and artistically technical in the purest of senses of following the rules (and I know how you guys all love following rules ).

Interpretation of art has to have a human element to it. Just as reception of commentary is a lesson in learning what weight to attach to peoples viewpoints upon your work; with the risk that you can easily end up in a situation where you can ascribe such a low weighting of importance to peoples views and yet at the same time you want to be recognised for your skill (we all do - some more than others, some less than others).



The whole clicks/likes/favs etc... I think is easy to get sucked into; but its also very shallow - its terribly shallow because it speaks nothing of your work in the end but more upon networking to get more like-backs (Though one can argue that a part of that is not just sharing out the likes; its actually about exposure - the MORE effort you put into exposure the more people will see your work and thus the more who are there to potentially comment or give their feedback in positive or negative light).

 

[bribrius]

It's disappointing from both sides.

If you're not well known or well liked, you get a bunch of nitpicking from people who think that "critique" is about finding things wrong with images.
If you're popular and well liked, then you get a bunch of positive feedback no matter what you post.

Neither is of much use. The first is falsely demoralizing, the second is equally falsely uplifting.

if it bothers you that much just open a new account under another name (i have a couple elsewhere) and go incognito. Never type much. They won't know the difference you can remain anonymous.

 

[The_Traveler]

It's disappointing from both sides.

If you're not well known or well liked, you get a bunch of nitpicking from people who think that "critique" is about finding things wrong with images.
If you're popular and well liked, then you get a bunch of positive feedback no matter what you post.

Neither is of much use. The first is falsely demoralizing, the second is equally falsely uplifting.

I went back at looked at the pictures you have posted and found only two posts that actually had pictures in them.
How did you get so demoralized with only two posts?

 

[Fred Berg]

It's disappointing from both sides.

If you're not well known or well liked, you get a bunch of nitpicking from people who think that "critique" is about finding things wrong with images.
If you're popular and well liked, then you get a bunch of positive feedback no matter what you post.

Neither is of much use. The first is falsely demoralizing, the second is equally falsely uplifting.

if it bothers you that much just open a new account under another name (i have a couple elsewhere) and go incognito. Never type much. They won't know the difference you can remain anonymous.

Are you trying to tell us that you are sicboi?

 

[photoguy99]

Doesn't bother me at all. I don't rely on social media for critique. Also, it is possible for the attentive to winnow out the kernels of genuine critique from the chaff.

 

[bribrius]

It's disappointing from both sides.

If you're not well known or well liked, you get a bunch of nitpicking from people who think that "critique" is about finding things wrong with images.
If you're popular and well liked, then you get a bunch of positive feedback no matter what you post.

Neither is of much use. The first is falsely demoralizing, the second is equally falsely uplifting.

if it bothers you that much just open a new account under another name (i have a couple elsewhere) and go incognito. Never type much. They won't know the difference you can remain anonymous.

Are you trying to tell us that you are sicboi?

yes, if that is what sicboi does. i run multiple accounts for different types of images.

 

[Overread]

It's disappointing from both sides.

If you're not well known or well liked, you get a bunch of nitpicking from people who think that "critique" is about finding things wrong with images.
If you're popular and well liked, then you get a bunch of positive feedback no matter what you post.

Neither is of much use. The first is falsely demoralizing, the second is equally falsely uplifting.

if it bothers you that much just open a new account under another name (i have a couple elsewhere) and go incognito. Never type much. They won't know the difference you can remain anonymous.

Are you trying to tell us that you are sicboi?

yes, if that is what sicboi does. i run multiple accounts for different types of images.

You are aware that on most sites moderators greatly dislike the use of multiple accounts by one person and on many it comes with a full ban on all accounts.
It's deceptive to use multiple accounts whilst part of the same community and honestly you really don't need to do that to just show photos.

 

[gsgary]

It's disappointing from both sides.

If you're not well known or well liked, you get a bunch of nitpicking from people who think that "critique" is about finding things wrong with images.
If you're popular and well liked, then you get a bunch of positive feedback no matter what you post.

Neither is of much use. The first is falsely demoralizing, the second is equally falsely uplifting.

if it bothers you that much just open a new account under another name (i have a couple elsewhere) and go incognito. Never type much. They won't know the difference you can remain anonymous.

Are you trying to tell us that you are sicboi?

yes, if that is what sicboi does. i run multiple accounts for different types of images.

You are aware that on most sites moderators greatly dislike the use of multiple accounts by one person and on many it comes with a full ban on all accounts.
It's deceptive to use multiple accounts whilst part of the same community and honestly you really don't need to do that to just show photos.

Go on ban him [emoji3]

 

[bribrius]

It's disappointing from both sides.

If you're not well known or well liked, you get a bunch of nitpicking from people who think that "critique" is about finding things wrong with images.
If you're popular and well liked, then you get a bunch of positive feedback no matter what you post.

Neither is of much use. The first is falsely demoralizing, the second is equally falsely uplifting.

if it bothers you that much just open a new account under another name (i have a couple elsewhere) and go incognito. Never type much. They won't know the difference you can remain anonymous.

Are you trying to tell us that you are sicboi?

yes, if that is what sicboi does. i run multiple accounts for different types of images.

You are aware that on most sites moderators greatly dislike the use of multiple accounts by one person and on many it comes with a full ban on all accounts.
It's deceptive to use multiple accounts whilst part of the same community and honestly you really don't need to do that to just show photos.

I have it figured out. I'm all set. And i will decide what i need to do, thanks.

 

[bribrius]

It's disappointing from both sides.

If you're not well known or well liked, you get a bunch of nitpicking from people who think that "critique" is about finding things wrong with images.
If you're popular and well liked, then you get a bunch of positive feedback no matter what you post.

Neither is of much use. The first is falsely demoralizing, the second is equally falsely uplifting.

I went back at looked at the pictures you have posted and found only two posts that actually had pictures in them.
How did you get so demoralized with only two posts?

i was wondering that too. Maybe he is sensitive?