The small things in life C+C

[Mully]

Call it what you want ...I have explained what I thought

 

[Rick58]

I mean, there's more than editorial and ad photography. Photojournalism or Candid photography for example. I mean, I classify snapshots as poor, composition-less, shots.

You took the words right out of my mouth EXCEPT, I go one step further and say snapshots CAN BE poor and composition-less, but they don't have to be.
To me this is a really nice candid shot of your kids. It not posed or planned. It's a candid and a nice one.

Sure, but usually when you call someone's work a snapshot, it's generally not good.

Snapshot (photography) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...and to me that is very unfortunate. A lot of history would have been lost if it wasn't for someone in the past snapping the casual snapshot. But that's a battle that I seem to be fighting alone, and that's ok to.

Edit: funny, but I didn't realize how appropriate you signature line is to this topic

 

[Ballistics]

I understand what you are saying Rick, and don't think I don't appreciate it.

 

[KrisztinaK]

Apparently, I've used the term (snapshot) incorrectly for some time as well. Including on my own photos, such as my own kids playing at the park.
Many are far from imperfect but I still call 'em snapshots.

This has been a lightbulb moment that's for sure. From this point forward I will reserve the term for the snaps that deserve it.


I happen to really like this image. It captures a wonderful moment between the boys. They clearly enjoy each other's company. It shows on their faces through their big smiles.
The swing in the foreground doesn't really bother me, my eye is drawn right to the subjects.

I think the conversion is really nice too, love the contrast. I might lighten the younger boy's clothing just a bit though.

 

[Ballistics]

Call it what you want ...I have explained what I thought

You have. I merely pointed out that the term snapshot is derogatory. You also pointed out that you
didn't mean it in a derogatory fashion. Having said that, 9/10 times if you call someone's a photograph
a snapshot, it's usually taken as a form of an insult.

It's probably a cultural thing, being that I never heard
the term being used that way before I joined this forum (and 2 others), but now, before today, I've never seen
it used in a positive light. It's always been said with some form of disapproval, and even malice.

 

[Ballistics]

Apparently, I've used the term (snapshot) incorrectly for some time as well. Including on my own photos, such as my own kids playing at the park.
Many are far from imperfect but I still call 'em snapshots.

This has been a lightbulb moment that's for sure. From this point forward I will reserve the term for the snaps that deserve it.

Like I said to Mully, I never knew the term was negative until I joined the forum.

I happen to really like this image. It captures a wonderful moment between the boys. They clearly enjoy each other's company. It shows on their faces through their big smiles.
The swing in the foreground doesn't really bother me, my eye is drawn right to the subjects.

I think the conversion is really nice too, love the contrast. I might lighten the younger boy's clothing just a bit though.

Thanks .

 

[jaguaraz]

I liked your pic a lot. I very much like the look you captured on the younger boy's face- ready for adventure! Composition works well for me too. You nailed the depth of field and I think you put the boys in just the right place in the frame as well. Thanks for sharing such a great pic of these children.

 

[2WheelPhoto]

Nice! I like the squares acting as a leading line, too

 

[Thayli]

Apparently, I've used the term (snapshot) incorrectly for some time as well. Including on my own photos, such as my own kids playing at the park.
Many are far from imperfect but I still call 'em snapshots.

This has been a lightbulb moment that's for sure. From this point forward I will reserve the term for the snaps that deserve it.

Chiming in with my unasked for opinion, I'll agree with this above. I always considered the term 'snapshot' to be a conotation of the same (presumably) military phrase concerning firearms. Broadly speaking, I guess an 'aimed shot' would be when the rifles sights were ranged, breathing controlled, arms locked etc. Everything set up to the best of ability. The 'snap shot' would be the immediate reaction to an external stimuli, up and fire with no preparation. Sure, the aimed shot has a much higher success rate hitting the target, but that dosen't mean the snap shot never does. Two completely different shots, but for enviromental reasons, not the individuals, and it'd be pretty daft to try and judge them the same way. I'm going to cause a forum-wide gasp now by saying until this moment, I pretty much considered the pulitzer prize to be an award for the best snapshots. I never even thought about 'snapshot' being a derogatory remark until reading this thread, (but it certainly does add a new tint to some comments I've read in the past lol).

Anyway, I like the shot, technical and content. The black and white really works and the kids grin is priceless. No idea why because such things don't normally appeal to me, but I like the tiles on the ground as well.

 

[KrisztinaK]

I never even thought about 'snapshot' being a derogatory remark until reading this thread,

I'm so glad to hear that I am not alone on this. I was feeling a bit like I didn't know something really obvious here.

(but it certainly does add a new tint to some comments I've read in the past lol)

I agree with this 100%. In fact I recall calling someone's photo a snapshot on here recently, and I did NOT mean anything negative by my comment. I was just calling it a snapshot in the sense that it was a quick snap (ie unplanned) shot. Needless to say, the OP got all bent out of shape over that one. I had no idea that he took my comment as an insult. It was not meant as such.

I will be more careful with my selection of words from now on though, that's for sure.

 

[Rick58]

Someone once described a "snapshot" to me as a photo that would only be enjoyed by someone with emotional ties to the subject.
I occasionally will take a general interest photo just for fun, but this is a hobby so I take what I like, call it what you will.
The funny thing is photography was invented to simply record images. Now doing so gets you a label. Now it must be "art" to be recognized or commented on.

 

[Ballistics]

I liked your pic a lot. I very much like the look you captured on the younger boy's face- ready for adventure! Composition works well for me too. You nailed the depth of field and I think you put the boys in just the right place in the frame as well. Thanks for sharing such a great pic of these children.

Thank you very much.

Nice! I like the squares acting as a leading line, too

I was hoping someone caught that! Thanks

Chiming in with my unasked for opinion, I'll agree with this above. I always considered the term 'snapshot' to be a conotation of the same (presumably) military phrase concerning firearms. Broadly speaking, I guess an 'aimed shot' would be when the rifles sights were ranged, breathing controlled, arms locked etc. Everything set up to the best of ability. The 'snap shot' would be the immediate reaction to an external stimuli, up and fire with no preparation. Sure, the aimed shot has a much higher success rate hitting the target, but that dosen't mean the snap shot never does. Two completely different shots, but for enviromental reasons, not the individuals, and it'd be pretty daft to try and judge them the same way. I'm going to cause a forum-wide gasp now by saying until this moment, I pretty much considered the pulitzer prize to be an award for the best snapshots. I never even thought about 'snapshot' being a derogatory remark until reading this thread, (but it certainly does add a new tint to some comments I've read in the past lol).

Like I said, even I was unaware of this term before I joined photography forums. It's funny you mentioned the military, I have a pretty good example of this terminology situation.
In the Navy,The term "shipmate" is a term of an endearment from sailor to sailor below the paygrade of E-7, but when referring to a chief (E-7+) as shipmate, it's taken as a form of
disrespect. I've been to some bases where this isn't necessarily the case, but widespread, it's taboo to call brass, shipmate.

Anyway, I like the shot, technical and content. The black and white really works and the kids grin is priceless. No idea why because such things don't normally appeal to me, but I like the tiles on the ground as well.

Thank you! Very Appreciated.

 

[Ballistics]

I never even thought about 'snapshot' being a derogatory remark until reading this thread,

I'm so glad to hear that I am not alone on this. I was feeling a bit like I didn't know something really obvious here.

(but it certainly does add a new tint to some comments I've read in the past lol)

I agree with this 100%. In fact I recall calling someone's photo a snapshot on here recently, and I did NOT mean anything negative by my comment. I was just calling it a snapshot in the sense that it was a quick snap (ie unplanned) shot. Needless to say, the OP got all bent out of shape over that one. I had no idea that he took my comment as an insult. It was not meant as such.

I will be more careful with my selection of words from now on though, that's for sure.

I can't even begin to imagine where the term came from, in a derogatory sense. I'd blame the internet, but it seems to not be exclusive to the web.
I went to a NY college for an orientation type meeting, for people interested in going there, and they invited students to bring their portfolio for an informal review.
I went just for fun, and during the portfolio review, the department head said to one female student, that while she did have potential
some of her photos were nothing more than snapshots and she should take them out of her portfolio. The room went pretty quiet, and luckily that was the last
portfolio to be reviewed because the atmosphere became very awkward lol.

 

[Ballistics]

Someone once described a "snapshot" to me as a photo that would only be enjoyed by someone with emotional ties to the subject.
I occasionally will take a general interest photo just for fun, but this is a hobby so I take what I like, call it what you will.
The funny thing is photography was invented to simply record images. Now doing so gets you a label. Now it must be "art" to be recognized or commented on.

When I first started taking photos and sharing them (July/August 2011) I concentrated solely on the technical aspects. I wanted to get the technical side of photography down, and
asked others that critiqued my work to concentrate only on the technical side of the image when critiquing. It wasn't until a few months ago, that i considered my photography even worth
looking at.

Now that I have the technical side down, the next step for me is getting the approval of my peers, which is the intent of my C+C now. I'm not concerned about whether or not it's art.
But I do care about the comments and critique of others. If you followed the thread from the OP - you would see that this is the 3rd edit from the original post. Not because I'm trying to please
those reviewing, but because I actually agree with their assessments and their critique made for a better image.
I do photography for me, but if I didn't care what other people thought, then sharing these images would be kind of pointless to me at this point.

Also, not disagreeing with your posts Rick, don't want you to think that I'm contradicting your message, I'm actually concurring with an elaboration.

 

[frommrstomommy]

I like this one a lot, sans empty swing would be best.. but still like it.