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While the sh*tty pop singer known only antics with always find a way to get their 15 minutes of fame, it's the bands with true talent that will continue to make records and tour and create great music for life. Every decade has their bands that are known for antics and their one hit. It's the bands with true musical ability that will be followed and appreciated by many generations. The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, Tom Petty, etc etc. I feel like photography probably goes through the same pattern. The instagram phase will come and go, it already jumped the shark. The overdone HDR phase is headed that way already. There will undoubtedly be something to replace those as time moves on and technology changes. What won't change though is the appreciation for a well-composed, well-lit, powerful photograph that conveys emotion to the viewer. That will live on for many generations.
 
The music, singer, band, entertainer aspect is about as subjective as it gets. I saw Lady Gaga play the piano and sing on the Howard Stern Show and I was impressed and surprised by her talent. Prior to that all I knew or felt was that she was some new overhyped singer my kids listened to.

For the most part, I don't care for country music but I respect the hell out of it's vocalists and musicians.

Should start a thread listing in our opinions, crappy singers that have lasted....
 
The music, singer, band, entertainer aspect is about as subjective as it gets. I saw Lady Gaga play the piano and sing on the Howard Stern Show and I was impressed and surprised by her talent. Prior to that all I knew or felt was that she was some new overhyped singer my kids listened to.

For the most part, I don't care for country music but I respect the hell out of it's vocalists and musicians.

Should start a thread listing in our opinions, crappy singers that have lasted....

Ella Fitzgerald- now there was a voice. Gaga? Eh... honestly I've never really had any interest. My thought process is if you have to wear stupid hats and a meat suit to get my attention then you've lost me already ... lol

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When I saw WOW, I thought this:



Country has its fair share of untalented hacks, I'm sure-I am not a country fan, so I'm not 100% qualified to comment, but being an American, I will anyway. ;)

I'd say that the thing to strive for here is Queen or Led Zeppelin-timeless. Just as relevant today as they were when they were together. If there's a way to make your work "future proof" (not your equipment-that's impossible), that's what I would strive for-something that will survive the next fad, or the impending DSLR apocalypse I keep hearing about, or changes in popular styles and culture. That's what Queen and Led Zeppelin have done-survived the changes in how music is stored, fads like boy bands, annoying people like Justin Beiber, and stood the test of time. Have I achieved this? God no, I'm not anywhere near good enough to make images that powerful at this point in my adventures. Maybe when I'm 80.
 
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The music, singer, band, entertainer aspect is about as subjective as it gets. I saw Lady Gaga play the piano and sing on the Howard Stern Show and I was impressed and surprised by her talent. Prior to that all I knew or felt was that she was some new overhyped singer my kids listened to.

so even the ones that scream "artisit license" still know the fundamentals?!
 
The music, singer, band, entertainer aspect is about as subjective as it gets. I saw Lady Gaga play the piano and sing on the Howard Stern Show and I was impressed and surprised by her talent. Prior to that all I knew or felt was that she was some new overhyped singer my kids listened to.

For the most part, I don't care for country music but I respect the hell out of it's vocalists and musicians.

Should start a thread listing in our opinions, crappy singers that have lasted....

Ella Fitzgerald- now there was a voice. Gaga? Eh... honestly I've never really had any interest. My thought process is if you have to wear stupid hats and a meat suit to get my attention then you've lost me already ... lol



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Oh I totally get it. However, I am glad I heard how great Elton John was before I saw what he wears.
 
But Lady Gaga is a classically trained musician. She has serious talent, she just chooses a genre of music that degrades that.
 
The music, singer, band, entertainer aspect is about as subjective as it gets. I saw Lady Gaga play the piano and sing on the Howard Stern Show and I was impressed and surprised by her talent. Prior to that all I knew or felt was that she was some new overhyped singer my kids listened to.

so even the ones that scream "artisit license" still know the fundamentals?!

Yup, some indeed do.
 
I always think that the way to tell if a musician is real is to see them live. No auto-tune, one take, spotlight on. If you can impress me live, that's talent.
 
I think I should attempt to clarify something regarding music personalities. I think Lady Gaga is actually talented, although I don't know if she writes her own songs.

My beef is mainly directed at all the wanna-bees trying to break into the music business. It seems as though there is a "uniform" of sorts from costumes to choice of instrument, to song styles. If someone is interested in rock, then they emulate the current crop of rock stars. If they prefer country, then I can't tell one from another.

Now back to the photography metaphor: In photography these days it seems there are a lot of copy-cats trying to copy some or another "style" regardless if it is something they can do.
 
The music, singer, band, entertainer aspect is about as subjective as it gets. I saw Lady Gaga play the piano and sing on the Howard Stern Show and I was impressed and surprised by her talent. Prior to that all I knew or felt was that she was some new overhyped singer my kids listened to.

For the most part, I don't care for country music but I respect the hell out of it's vocalists and musicians.

Should start a thread listing in our opinions, crappy singers that have lasted....

Ella Fitzgerald- now there was a voice. Gaga? Eh... honestly I've never really had any interest. My thought process is if you have to wear stupid hats and a meat suit to get my attention then you've lost me already ... lol



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Oh I totally get it. However, I am glad I heard how great Elton John was before I saw what he wears.

Lol.. yup, there is a reason why I avoid certain videos and go audio only on a lot of stuff.
 
But Lady Gaga is a classically trained musician. She has serious talent, she just chooses a genre of music that degrades that.

Or figured out how to make a living from it. Which goes back to the doing what I love and making a living off of it thingy :D

Mr. Brick, is Camp Pendleton a new location for you? I grew up there (San Onofre housing) 1973ish to 1984ish.
 
The term "Video killed the radio star" comes to mind. Now it's all about theatrics, and not the kind that add to a performance (read: Bohemian Rhapsody), but the bling and Bentleys and booty and boobies (OK, I'm fine with that one) and "making it rain" and "all up in the club" and "being naked on a wrecking ball" and whatever the kids are doing these days.
 
But Lady Gaga is a classically trained musician. She has serious talent, she just chooses a genre of music that degrades that.

Or figured out how to make a living from it. Which goes back to the doing what I love and making a living off of it thingy :D

Mr. Brick, is Camp Pendleton a new location for you? I grew up there (San Onofre housing) 1973ish to 1984ish.

No, been here 3 years. I had SD as my location and everyone kept thinking it was South Dakota so I decided to be a little more specific. :D I'm only here for a few more months though before the Navy gives me a spare-no-expense trip to Japan for 3 years.
 
I think I should attempt to clarify something regarding music personalities. I think Lady Gaga is actually talented, although I don't know if she writes her own songs.

My beef is mainly directed at all the wanna-bees trying to break into the music business. It seems as though there is a "uniform" of sorts from costumes to choice of instrument, to song styles. If someone is interested in rock, then they emulate the current crop of rock stars. If they prefer country, then I can't tell one from another.

Now back to the photography metaphor: In photography these days it seems there are a lot of copy-cats trying to copy some or another "style" regardless if it is something they can do.

She's a singer songwriter.

The parallels of the two art genres are interesting at the very least. I've enjoyed the discussions and debates about photography and art since joining TPF, but never related any of it to music until now.

Country singers could be the worst offenders of the copycat stuff.
Part of my general dislike of country music, is I can't think of one song I can do the Smurf, or Running Man, or Robot, or Stanky Leg to. :lmao::smileys::biglaugh:
 

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