Time Magazine Cover - If you Don't Like it, Don't Look

[fotomumma09]

YO bud.. lighten up! It is a magazine cover.. and with the magazines hurting so bad financially, they are going all Jerry Springer on us.. and trying for controversy!

I don't understand the aversion! Why do you so intensely dislike something that is actually very natural and healthy... and even beautiful in many ways?

Awwww CG, nice to see your sensitive side

 

[Dominantly]

The US Navy has paternity leave

 

[Josh66]

And Norway gets 36 weeks of paid maternty leave and the US gets 4.

I was under the impression that we didn't have ANY.

Only one place I have ever worked had paid maternity leave (that was company policy though, not law). Everywhere else, the maternity leave policy was basically, 'You can go home for a few weeks and we won't fire you' - nothing in there about getting paid. Basically, just enough to comply with the FMLA. Which you have to be employed for one year prior to qualify for, BTW.

 

[cgipson1]

New discussion point.


Do you think the kid in this, would fare well in a school setting, if his peers were to find out about this? I mean I remember kids catching crap in kindergarden for verious cootie afflictions, I can only imagine what it would have been like for a kid with this little treasure.

If it is possible that the kid would suffer socially, then is it selfish on the mothers part to be so head strong about this feeding?

I don't think it is wrong of the mother at all.. and in some other countries it wouldn't be considered that unusual! I would say that is a sign of a sick society when the kids are so abusive to each other that he would even have to worry about it... and especially since that abusiveness is tacitly allowed by adults!

 

[GeorgieGirl]

And Norway gets 36 weeks of paid maternty leave and the US gets 4.

I was under the impression that we didn't have ANY.

Only one place I have ever worked had paid maternity leave (that was company policy though, not law). Everywhere else, the maternity leave policy was basically, 'You can go home for a few weeks and we won't fire you' - nothing in there about getting paid. Basically, just enough to comply with the FMLA. Which you have to be employed for one year prior to qualify for, BTW.

Mom's get paid for 4 weeks before and 4 weeks after for a vaginal birth under State Disability Insurance that workers pay into here in NJ. Six weeks after as a result of a cesarean. Nothing to do with employers...unless the employers have a policy that betters that paid time off due to job status.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

New discussion point.


Do you think the kid in this, would fare well in a school setting, if his peers were to find out about this? I mean I remember kids catching crap in kindergarden for verious cootie afflictions, I can only imagine what it would have been like for a kid with this little treasure.

If it is possible that the kid would suffer socially, then is it selfish on the mothers part to be so head strong about this feeding?

I don't think it is wrong of the mother at all.. and in some other countries it wouldn't be considered that unusual! I would say that is a sign of a sick society when the kids are so abusive to each other that he would even have to worry about it... and especially since that abusiveness is tacitly allowed by adults!

Interesting....makes me think of bullying.

 

[Josh66]

And Norway gets 36 weeks of paid maternty leave and the US gets 4.

I was under the impression that we didn't have ANY.

Only one place I have ever worked had paid maternity leave (that was company policy though, not law). Everywhere else, the maternity leave policy was basically, 'You can go home for a few weeks and we won't fire you' - nothing in there about getting paid. Basically, just enough to comply with the FMLA. Which you have to be employed for one year prior to qualify for, BTW.

Mom's get paid for 4 weeks before and 4 weeks after for a vaginal birth under State Disability Insurance that workers pay into here in NJ. Six weeks after as a result of a cesarean. Nothing to do with employers...unless the employers have a policy that betters that paid time off due to job status.

That's State law though. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that all States do not have that law.

As far as Federal law, the FMLA is pretty much it as far as I know - and that's unpaid leave.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

I was under the impression that we didn't have ANY.

Only one place I have ever worked had paid maternity leave (that was company policy though, not law). Everywhere else, the maternity leave policy was basically, 'You can go home for a few weeks and we won't fire you' - nothing in there about getting paid. Basically, just enough to comply with the FMLA. Which you have to be employed for one year prior to qualify for, BTW.

Mom's get paid for 4 weeks before and 4 weeks after for a vaginal birth under State Disability Insurance that workers pay into here in NJ. Six weeks after as a result of a cesarean. Nothing to do with employers...unless the employers have a policy that betters that paid time off due to job status.

That's State law though. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that all States do not have that law.

As far as Federal law, the FMLA is pretty much it as far as I know - and that's unpaid leave.

Could be.. if true, for workers, that has to be a huge BF. I'll go and take a look at a google to what states don't have a maternity disability. I hope I find none.

 

[Dominantly]

New discussion point.


Do you think the kid in this, would fare well in a school setting, if his peers were to find out about this? I mean I remember kids catching crap in kindergarden for verious cootie afflictions, I can only imagine what it would have been like for a kid with this little treasure.

If it is possible that the kid would suffer socially, then is it selfish on the mothers part to be so head strong about this feeding?

I don't think it is wrong of the mother at all.. and in some other countries it wouldn't be considered that unusual! I would say that is a sign of a sick society when the kids are so abusive to each other that he would even have to worry about it... and especially since that abusiveness is tacitly allowed by adults!

Interesting....makes me think of bullying.

Exactly.
There have been numerous cases across the country where kids have been bullied so bad they have taken their own lives. I would dare to say there are TONS of bullying cases everyday, in every school, in every grade, all across the country.

There are some well known rules to how to conduct yourself in such a hostile environment (IE a school of your peers), and one fundamental rule is "thou shast not suckle on thine mothers breast, when thee can read a book and chew steak"....

 

[MTVision]

"....in Spain and the US many women breastfeed their children until 4..."

Yeahhhhh, riiiight. Sure they do. Uh-huh.

Your acting like this is something new and never happens when it is a fairly common occurrence. If it was completely abnormal to do so then why do doctors in the UK, Spain and wherever else recommend a MINIMUM (meaning at least) 2 years. Some women choose to breastfeed until the child decides to stop.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

So D...now I think of those who did not see The Last Emperor.

 

[Josh66]

... until the child decides to stop.

So now I think of those who did not see The Last Emperor.

LOL - same thing I was thinking.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

So D...now I think of those who did not see The Last Emperor.

Or...Coming to America.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Mom's get paid for 4 weeks before and 4 weeks after for a vaginal birth under State Disability Insurance that workers pay into here in NJ. Six weeks after as a result of a cesarean. Nothing to do with employers...unless the employers have a policy that betters that paid time off due to job status.

That's State law though. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that all States do not have that law.

As far as Federal law, the FMLA is pretty much it as far as I know - and that's unpaid leave.

Could be.. if true, for workers, that has to be a huge BF. I'll go and take a look at a google to what states don't have a maternity disability. I hope I find none.

Awful findings.


Federal and State Maternity Benefits - Pregnancy - Maternity Leave

 

[Josh66]

That's State law though. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that all States do not have that law.

As far as Federal law, the FMLA is pretty much it as far as I know - and that's unpaid leave.

Could be.. if true, for workers, that has to be a huge BF. I'll go and take a look at a google to what states don't have a maternity disability. I hope I find none.

Awful findings.


Federal and State Maternity Benefits - Pregnancy - Maternity Leave

Indeed.

The United States is one of only five countries that does not provide a federally mandated maternity leave or require employers to provide some sort of maternity leave provision.

I wonder who the four other countries are...?