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cgipson1 said:
hahaha... you are much more advanced then the OP! :)

Does this remind you of something. I swear you and I were in this exact situation not too long ago.
 
I remember compuserve and genie before prodigy even existed.. at 300 baud. I have also been involved with trying to help this individual since her first post.. which you obviously haven't based on your join date / post count. Since you dont know the whole story.. I am surprised that you even commented :)

I was hoping this forum wasn't all about post counts and join date. We all know that means nothing. I'm a moderator at a few of the popular smartphone forums. If there is one thing I've learned is that it's not about post count. I just feel bad on my forums, and this one, when people come looking for help and other forum members lose patients. I've closed threads like this just because it goes so off topic. If people would just put the energy into helping the OP, instead of spending time looking at her previous posts, she may learn something. And if not, again, just don't reply.

300 baud is just a little before my time. 4800 was "it" when i started. And oh how happy I was when 14,400 came out.
 
NickA said:
I was hoping this forum wasn't all about post counts and join date. We all know that means nothing. I'm a moderator at a few of the popular smartphone forums. If there is one thing I've learned is that it's not about post count. I just feel bad on my forums, and this one, when people come looking for help and other forum members lose patients. I've closed threads like this just because it goes so off topic. If people would just put the energy into helping the OP, instead of spending time looking at her previous posts, she may learn something. And if not, again, just don't reply.

300 baud is just a little before my time. 4800 was "it" when i started. And oh how happy I was when 14,400 came out.

It's not about post count and join date. Cgipson has been helping her as have other people but people have to put some effort in. They can't keep doing the same thing and expect different things.
 
It's not about post count and join date. Cgipson has been helping her as have other people but people have to put some effort in. They can't keep doing the same thing and expect different things.

Noted, and thanks. I'll take my own advice now and move on to other topics.
 
I remember compuserve and genie before prodigy even existed.. at 300 baud. I have also been involved with trying to help this individual since her first post.. which you obviously haven't based on your join date / post count. Since you dont know the whole story.. I am surprised that you even commented :)

I was hoping this forum wasn't all about post counts and join date. We all know that means nothing. I'm a moderator at a few of the popular smartphone forums. If there is one thing I've learned is that it's not about post count. I just feel bad on my forums, and this one, when people come looking for help and other forum members lose patients. I've closed threads like this just because it goes so off topic. If people would just put the energy into helping the OP, instead of spending time looking at her previous posts, she may learn something. And if not, again, just don't reply.

300 baud is just a little before my time. 4800 was "it" when i started. And oh how happy I was when 14,400 came out.
With respect, the situation is different here. Elizabeth is looking for advice and help with her photography and she has been advised about shooting wide open quite often. I think that what frustrates people more than anything is that she clearly has ability and has some good ideas. Many people feel like they are being disrespected when they advise someone to not to do something in their first examples and are still doing it a few shoots later. Respect moves two ways. Now I don't think that Elizabeth is intending to be disrespectful. She is just very eager to shoot and is forgetting what people have advised. There have been far worse before her. It's just that she is holding herself back.
 
I remember compuserve and genie before prodigy even existed.. at 300 baud. I have also been involved with trying to help this individual since her first post.. which you obviously haven't based on your join date / post count. Since you dont know the whole story.. I am surprised that you even commented :)

I was hoping this forum wasn't all about post counts and join date. We all know that means nothing. I'm a moderator at a few of the popular smartphone forums. If there is one thing I've learned is that it's not about post count. I just feel bad on my forums, and this one, when people come looking for help and other forum members lose patients. I've closed threads like this just because it goes so off topic. If people would just put the energy into helping the OP, instead of spending time looking at her previous posts, she may learn something. And if not, again, just don't reply.

300 baud is just a little before my time. 4800 was "it" when i started. And oh how happy I was when 14,400 came out.

My point was that we have tried repeatedly to help... and it seems to go nowhere. She thinks that she is talented.. and that talent will make up for a lack of basic skills. I do think my time and energy is better used on others here that need help, primarily those that actually make an effort. The main trouble is that Facebook has told her she is wonderful.. and she could be (future tense), but she isn't (present tense)!

This site isn't about post counts and join date.. but when someone who just joined makes a comment on a ongoing problem that they most likely know nothing about.. it is a little irritating. We see a lot of that, mostly from short lived troll types! (not calling you a troll.. just stating why the irritation is there.) I hope that clarifies the issue a little bit for you.

I guess you don't remember arpanet then?
 
good news is... i think your compositions are interesting. not always well-executed, but interesting. so at least there's that. :)
 
My point was that we have tried repeatedly to help... and it seems to go nowhere. She thinks that she is talented.. and that talent will make up for a lack of basic skills. I do think my time and energy is better used on others here that need help, primarily those that actually make an effort. The main trouble is that Facebook has told her she is wonderful.. and she could be (future tense), but she isn't (present tense)!

This site isn't about post counts and join date.. but when someone who just joined makes a comment on a ongoing problem that they most likely know nothing about.. it is a little irritating. We see a lot of that, mostly from short lived troll types! (not calling you a troll.. just stating why the irritation is there.) I hope that clarifies the issue a little bit for you.

I guess you don't remember arpanet then?

Definitively not a troll. I see enough of those on my sites, mostly just joining to bash the competition. Like we get a lot of iPhone/iPad users joining just to bash Android, and the other way around. And yeah, the first thing I look at is post count and when they joined, and what their prior posts (if any) "sound" like.

I didn't just join to make a comment, I joined so I wouldn't have to see all the ads an unregistered member sees ;). But being familiar with running multiple forums for the past few years, I know that some posters don't intend to ask the same questions over and over. There's just so much over whelming information that it gets a bit intimidating.
 
Disregarded - So much time in this forum is spent arguing about the stupidest things! I don't have that kind of time to waste.

Disregarded? Ok.. I think from now on.. you can do without my assistance, since you know so much already. Hopefully everyone else will fill the same way...

You can't even consistently take photos with good focus, or decent exposure.. and you are "disregarding" good advice and being a smarta$$.... good luck!

Dude, cool yourself, I'm not being a smart A! This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Why does every post have to turn into some type of argument. I HAVE taken A LOT of advise!!! My first post was like what 5 days ago? I have already accepted that I am NOT a photographer - lesson #1, I realized that I have so much more to learn and took initiative lesson #2, I started reading my manual (as advised) I'm on page 56 and have only read about the basics thus far lesson #3, I have also watched at least 6 or 7 tutorials since then (as advised) lesson #4, I have follow most of the provided links along with some of my own through googling topics, lesson #5, I learned about the exposure triangle (aperture, shutter, ISO) I didn't know this before, lesson #6, I also "tried" shooting with a smaller aperture and my photos were blown out and I wrongly amused it was the aperture hence the opening it back up, Lesson #7, last night I learned about using the bridge in PS and was able to see my photos info so that I can now compare them and learn, lesson #8....... have I convinced you enough that I have learned from my posts? Seriously, it's been 5 freakin days? I am so eager to learn which is partly why I just went out there and did a shoot and totally forgot about shooting wide open and when I did realize this I move it up and then my photos where blurry because the shutter was going so low and I didn't know what was going on during the shoot but after posting these pics and being able to see each photos info I now know what was going on.
I seriously don't have time to waste arguing about every little thing in every post I make. If it's annoying to you or anyone else then by all means do not read my posts! BUT I do REALLY want to learn, and if I didn't, I would have been outa here after the first day I got soooooo many smart as$ Comments!!!
Also, I am an EXTREMELY visual learner, so tutorials are my best bet, questions are so helpful for me. I have struggled with dyslexia all my life and reading takes me 10 times as long as others so it also helps to have people explain stuff rather than spend 3 hours reading and I get to page 20 and can't remember half of what I just read.
 
Agree. BTW I might be getting a DSLR in a month or two, so this aparture jargon will actually apply to me!!!!


I knew this was going to happen. Called it a month ago.
 
NickA said:
I was hoping this forum wasn't all about post counts and join date. We all know that means nothing. I'm a moderator at a few of the popular smartphone forums. If there is one thing I've learned is that it's not about post count. I just feel bad on my forums, and this one, when people come looking for help and other forum members lose patients. I've closed threads like this just because it goes so off topic. If people would just put the energy into helping the OP, instead of spending time looking at her previous posts, she may learn something. And if not, again, just don't reply.

300 baud is just a little before my time. 4800 was "it" when i started. And oh how happy I was when 14,400 came out.

It's not about post count and join date. Cgipson has been helping her as have other people but people have to put some effort in. They can't keep doing the same thing and expect different things.

The problem is that there are a hundred of us "helping" and the amount of information is so overwhelming it's not even funny. Not to mention that she's gotten advice for everything from the very basic basics to some extremely advanced stuff. People pop in and say things that have no bearing on where the person learning is at in this journey which throws a monkey wrench into the works.
5 days is not nearly enough to figure out which ones are throwing some advanced stuff into your works, which ones are crap and which ones are actually trying to help AND which of those will actually be able to help in the way that the learner needs to be helped.
Yeah, there needs to be some slack cut for that! Take a look at the posts and the heaping wealth of information thrown at her here! How is a newbie to know what is what she needs now and what she needs later?
The same thing happened with AMOMENT who needed even littler blocks of information that were specific to her RIGHT NOW. She tried to listen to EVERYONE and EVERYTHING and ended up with a huge mess to sort thru. Everyone got frustrated with her and then nailed her to the wall for not taking the advice... Elizabeth has definitely handled it better than AMOMENT did so far.
This isn't an overnight thing, for God's sake, but damn... she is definitely making improvements here!
 
MLeeK said:
The problem is that there are a hundred of us "helping" and the amount of information is so overwhelming it's not even funny. Not to mention that she's gotten advice for everything from the very basic basics to some extremely advanced stuff. People pop in and say things that have no bearing on where the person learning is at in this journey which throws a monkey wrench into the works.
5 days is not nearly enough to figure out which ones are throwing some advanced stuff into your works, which ones are crap and which ones are actually trying to help AND which of those will actually be able to help in the way that the learner needs to be helped.
Yeah, there needs to be some slack cut for that! Take a look at the posts and the heaping wealth of information thrown at her here! How is a newbie to know what is what she needs now and what she needs later?
The same thing happened with AMOMENT who needed even littler blocks of information that were specific to her RIGHT NOW. She tried to listen to EVERYONE and EVERYTHING and ended up with a huge mess to sort thru. Everyone got frustrated with her and then nailed her to the wall for not taking the advice... Elizabeth has definitely handled it better than AMOMENT did so far.
This isn't an overnight thing, for God's sake, but damn... she is definitely making improvements here!

Improvement in editing skill maybe. Whatever - my point is still that maybe just maybe she should do some research on her own. She's dyslexic and has issues reading and a visual learner so how in the hell is a forum of people explaining stuff to her going to help if she can't remember anything after 10 minutes???
 
Check out youtube for some videos, since reading is difficult it's probably right up your alley :D
 
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My point was that we have tried repeatedly to help... and it seems to go nowhere. She thinks that she is talented.. and that talent will make up for a lack of basic skills. I do think my time and energy is better used on others here that need help, primarily those that actually make an effort. The main trouble is that Facebook has told her she is wonderful.. and she could be (future tense), but she isn't (present tense)!

This site isn't about post counts and join date.. but when someone who just joined makes a comment on a ongoing problem that they most likely know nothing about.. it is a little irritating. We see a lot of that, mostly from short lived troll types! (not calling you a troll.. just stating why the irritation is there.) I hope that clarifies the issue a little bit for you.

I guess you don't remember arpanet then?

Have you seen her facebook page by chance?
I don't want to come of as being nasty, but heads chopped off........children looking down into the ground.
Out of focus, high iso shots in program mode. And she's charging friends and family for these.
Hyping herself up on her facebook page to be some high class, seasoned professional photographer.

I have nothing against beginners......really. I mean it, honest.
I do object to beginners acting like professionals, and selling, or trying to sell CRAP to the public as it makes the entire industry look bad.

The sooner Elizabeth faces the fact that she is nowhere near a professional level photographer, and simply at this point, a mom with a camera, who THINKS shes a pro, the better off she will be on this forum.
On the other hand, she is at liberty to disregard all advice on the forum if she so chooses, including this. Which I have no problem with.

Disclaimer : I am not a professional. Nor do I pretend to be one.
 
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