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NickA said:
I was hoping this forum wasn't all about post counts and join date. We all know that means nothing. I'm a moderator at a few of the popular smartphone forums. If there is one thing I've learned is that it's not about post count. I just feel bad on my forums, and this one, when people come looking for help and other forum members lose patients. I've closed threads like this just because it goes so off topic. If people would just put the energy into helping the OP, instead of spending time looking at her previous posts, she may learn something. And if not, again, just don't reply.

300 baud is just a little before my time. 4800 was "it" when i started. And oh how happy I was when 14,400 came out.

It's not about post count and join date. Cgipson has been helping her as have other people but people have to put some effort in. They can't keep doing the same thing and expect different things.

The problem is that there are a hundred of us "helping" and the amount of information is so overwhelming it's not even funny. Not to mention that she's gotten advice for everything from the very basic basics to some extremely advanced stuff. People pop in and say things that have no bearing on where the person learning is at in this journey which throws a monkey wrench into the works.
5 days is not nearly enough to figure out which ones are throwing some advanced stuff into your works, which ones are crap and which ones are actually trying to help AND which of those will actually be able to help in the way that the learner needs to be helped.
Yeah, there needs to be some slack cut for that! Take a look at the posts and the heaping wealth of information thrown at her here! How is a newbie to know what is what she needs now and what she needs later?
The same thing happened with AMOMENT who needed even littler blocks of information that were specific to her RIGHT NOW. She tried to listen to EVERYONE and EVERYTHING and ended up with a huge mess to sort thru. Everyone got frustrated with her and then nailed her to the wall for not taking the advice... Elizabeth has definitely handled it better than AMOMENT did so far.
This isn't an overnight thing, for God's sake, but damn... she is definitely making improvements here!

My very first post to her was about using a smaller aperture.... in her first thread.... how hard is it to learn that? lol!

nice shot... but a trifle more DOF (smaller aperture) and her other eye would still be in focus, which is a style I prefer... others may not!

Cropping... dont chop heads and chins if you can help it.. even for a really tight shot.. and vertical format would be preferred here usually!
 
F 1.8

I don't have to read or post again to tell you to NOT USE 1.8
 
My point was that we have tried repeatedly to help... and it seems to go nowhere. She thinks that she is talented.. and that talent will make up for a lack of basic skills. I do think my time and energy is better used on others here that need help, primarily those that actually make an effort. The main trouble is that Facebook has told her she is wonderful.. and she could be (future tense), but she isn't (present tense)!

This site isn't about post counts and join date.. but when someone who just joined makes a comment on a ongoing problem that they most likely know nothing about.. it is a little irritating. We see a lot of that, mostly from short lived troll types! (not calling you a troll.. just stating why the irritation is there.) I hope that clarifies the issue a little bit for you.

I guess you don't remember arpanet then?

Have you seen her facebook page by chance?
I don't want to come of as being nasty, but heads chopped off........children looking down into the ground.
Out of focus, high iso shots in program mode. And she's charging friends and family for these.
Hyping herself up on her facebook page to be some high class, seasoned professional photographer.

I have nothing against beginners......really. I mean it, honest.
I do object to beginners acting like professionals, and selling, or trying to sell CRAP to the public as it makes the entire industry look bad.

The sooner Elizabeth faces the fact that she is nowhere near a professional level photographer, and simply at this point, a mom with a camera, who THINKS shes a pro, the better off she will be on this forum.
On the other hand, she is at liberty to disregard all advice on the forum if she so chooses, including this. Which I have no problem with.

Disclaimer : I am not a professional. Nor do I pretend to be one.

You know what F&CK you then!!! My facebook page was made BEFORE I came into this forum and if you remember in my first post I renounced my ability and humbly started learning!!! I also noted that I have not advertised to my family and friends. I hadn't even done any shoots prior to my family comeing to me and asking for a shoot. My first shoot I told my aunt I would do it for free because I'm not professional and she INSISTED on giving me something. Then followed another family asking if I would do photos and offering money. Read the post before this. This forum is a Fing joke!!! Some of you here I belive really do want to help but other are just egotistic bastards!!! I hope your comments give you an fing hard on or it wasn't worht it!! See ya!


Lightspeed is one of the most patient people on here with beginners. He's made some really nice offers to other people on this forum. And he doesn't jump on the bandwagon, doesn't throw insults and gives the benefit of the doubt ALOT. If he has something to say you should really listen!! I do agree a lot of people on here can be unfairly condescending, but Light is not one of them.
 
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