maybe not 'off topic' but certainly beyond what the OP would want to know.
There is no need for making a place sound like a hell hole when it is quite the opposite.
You could apply the same OTT behaviours of ANY city... I live in a small city in England...one guy i went to school with murdered an old guy and cut off certain private body parts... him and his friends did it when they were just 16 y/o... he is still serving a life sentance and it happened just up the road from where i live... you wanna come move here?
This kind of stuff happens all the time regardless of where you live... However its the not the FIRST thing i would tell someone who is asking what my City is like to live in... get some perspective people... and show a little respect to the people that DO live in Toronto.
The short answer is Toronto is an excellent place to live and raise a family.
Come on, Arch, the OT would CERTAINLY want to know that Jane and Finch down to Wilson Ave. is not a safe area for her to move into. I would certainly want that sort of info. if I was moving to another city. Despite your rationalization that it happens everywhere I doubt you have had shootouts between rival gangs in the street in broad daylight in your area or bullets come through the wall of your house. I doubt that you have been attacked in broad daylight and you have probably not had the outside of your house vandalized or broken into. I doubt that you have had a Toronto colleague tell you that she is stressed out, because her nanny was abducted, brutally raped and killed on the way home. Is identity theft common in your area..as in someone stealing your name, house, bank accounts? It is in some areas of the GTA. It happened to a colleague of mine, who lives in Scarborough. So, yes, the odd occurence might happen to anyone, anywhere but when more things happen, it is no longer chance or coincidence.
It is not a matter of showing respect for people who live in Toronto. Depending on where they live, I admire their courage.
The short answer is despite not living there, my family name is on permanent locations there, so with that history, I know more about Toronto than you do, and have reason to keep up with what is happening there.
So, unlike others I do not bury my head in the ground. Toronto is certainly not a hell-hole by any stretch of the imagination but it has gone down because of various political and funding infrastructure problems as well as the lack of gun control by the federal government and the occasional discovery of toxic waste in some areas.
The reality is that NOT all areas of Toronto are an excellent place to live and raise a family, despite any rhetoric to the contrary. Perhaps Torontonians should wake up and work to solve some of the city problems instead of throwing around rhetoric that is getting more meaningless as the problems become greater.
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