Tresspassing

[o hey tyler]

BTW, what's a "doper?" Is that what the geriatric crowd calls cannabis users?

 

[SCraig]

Never, ever. I respect other people's property and I expect them to respect mine.

 

[Natalie]

I go on people's rural properties all the time without their permission, but in California it's not trespassing unless any of the following conditions are met:1. They have "No Trespassing" signs posted at least every 1/3 mile along the border of their property, and I enter anyway.2. I use their land's resources in potentially harmful way.3. Upon seeing me, they ask me to leave their land and I refuse.There are other minor things, but that's the gist of it. Since I photograph wildlife and the best places to find wildlife are rural areas with debris dumped by humans (usually that happens on private property), I make sure I know the property/trespassing laws in my state. If someone's land is not posted and I'm not hurting anything, the only thing the property owner can do is tell me to leave (that does happen on occasion, and I always leave when asked). I've tried asking for permission beforehand, but the people almost always say no... So it's easier to just go on and never be seen in the first place, since it's not illegal.

Next time I'm in California I will just help myself to your house if you leave the door unlocked. Might want to take a nap and I won't be hurting anything.How to Develop Personal Integrity: 10 steps - wikiHow

There are obviously different laws for houses and workplaces vs. rural unoccupied properties, I suggest you read up on them. Entering a house is illegal, entering a rural unposted property is not. And in your scenario, fortunately for me (and unfortunately for you or anyone else breaking into my house), California has what's called a castle doctrine, meaning homeowners can justifiably use deadly force against house intruders. And yes, my house has guns in it. Before getting so uppity about moral character I suggest you actually take time to inform yourself on laws, especially the ones in your own area, instead of just talking out of your ass again.

 

[TimGilbertson]

I know it's not the OP's situation, but in our business we operate with the old adage: "You* can do anything you want in a wedding dress."

*On second thought, I don't think that applies to anyone who isn't a bride; i.e. a man.

As an added bonus, there's an article somewhere about the Photographer's Rights. Interesting knowledge to have. (I spent the 3 seconds on Google to find it: Bert P. Krages Attorney at Law Photographer's Rights Page)

 

[Dagwood56]

Never, ever. I respect other people's property and I expect them to respect mine.

Exactly! I was raised in an age where if your toy went into the neighbor's yard, you asked their premisson before you went into get it. If I want to take a photo of something on someone elses property - I ask their permission first.

 

[tirediron]

BTW, what's a "doper?" Is that what the geriatric crowd calls cannabis users?

Easier to type than "criminal" I s'pose....

 

[tirediron]

Never, ever. I respect other people's property and I expect them to respect mine.

Exactly! I was raised in an age where if your toy went into the neighbor's yard, you asked their premisson before you went into get it. If I want to take a photo of something on someone elses property - I ask their permission first.

This!!! ^^ Really, laws shouldn't even enter in to the discussion... "If you don't know whose property it is, you know whose it is NOT!"

 

[o hey tyler]

BTW, what's a "doper?" Is that what the geriatric crowd calls cannabis users?

Easier to type than "criminal" I s'pose....

Good thing I'm not a criminal, and am fully aware of my state's laws on cannabis.

Places that have decriminalized non-medical cannabis in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[cgipson1]

The whole "I'm not hurting anything" attitude just doesn't cut it.

The thing is... if you are on someones land without thier permission, you can get blamed for anything that has happened on that land even if you didn't do it. How are you going to prove you didn't do it? I don't think it is worth it, personally!

 

[jake337]

Never, ever. I respect other people's property and I expect them to respect mine.

Exactly! I was raised in an age where if your toy went into the neighbor's yard, you asked their premisson before you went into get it. If I want to take a photo of something on someone elses property - I ask their permission first.

I've been raised in the age of knowing your neighbors. Asking my neighbor permission to grab a toy is pretty ridiculous, unless they have a beware of dog sign of course.

As to trespassing for photographic purposes, well I haven't been in that situation yet. I would just ask ahead of time and maybe offer a print of what you plan on taking. I wouldn't knock on their door and ask if I can use their backyard right now.

 

[tirediron]

BTW, what's a "doper?" Is that what the geriatric crowd calls cannabis users?

Easier to type than "criminal" I s'pose....

Good thing I'm not a criminal, and am fully aware of my state's laws on cannabis.

Places that have decriminalized non-medical cannabis in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is sad how standards are slipping everywhere isn't it?

 

[tirediron]

...I wouldn't knock on their door and ask if I can use their backyard right now.

I did almost that while working in Crete a few years ago; walked up to a house, knocked and after several painful minutes (the home-owner's English was as good as my Greek) negotiated permission to set up on his roof and shoot. Wound up getting a free meal out of the deal too!

 

[Dagwood56]

Never, ever. I respect other people's property and I expect them to respect mine.

Exactly! I was raised in an age where if your toy went into the neighbor's yard, you asked their premisson before you went into get it. If I want to take a photo of something on someone elses property - I ask their permission first.

I've been raised in the age of knowing your neighbors. Asking my neighbor permission to grab a toy is pretty ridiculous, unless they have a beware of dog sign of course.

As to trespassing for photographic purposes, well I haven't been in that situation yet. I would just ask ahead of time and maybe offer a print of what you plan on taking. I wouldn't knock on their door and ask if I can use their backyard right now.

When I was a child, we knew our neighbors too, but you still asked permission because it was the polite, respectful thing to do. It seems in recent years people have lost sight of politeness and respect and taken the attitude that, what's mine is mine and whats yours is mine and if I want it I'll take it. I'm old school and thats just my opinon. :er:

 

[jake337]

...I wouldn't knock on their door and ask if I can use their backyard right now.

I did almost that while working in Crete a few years ago; walked up to a house, knocked and after several painful minutes (the home-owner's English was as good as my Greek) negotiated permission to set up on his roof and shoot. Wound up getting a free meal out of the deal too!

Well of course it's if it's your only option. The same would happen if you knock on my door too! I would most likely be grillin' and offer a beer as well.

 

[o hey tyler]

Easier to type than "criminal" I s'pose....

Good thing I'm not a criminal, and am fully aware of my state's laws on cannabis.

Places that have decriminalized non-medical cannabis in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is sad how standards are slipping everywhere isn't it?

It is sad how judgmental people are of a harmless plant.

Let me guess John, you drink alcohol, right? Feel free to point fingers if you've never once had a sip of alcohol, never got a speeding ticket, and never taken drugs with more side effects than marijuana (that means any prescription drugs).

Standards aren't slipping, people are educating themselves on cannabis and finding that it's 1000x safer than drinking alcohol to become intoxicated. But, of course you don't realize that because you aren't educated on the subject. And it's your right to remain uneducated if you so choose. It's your life, buddy. :thumbup:

“In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating 10 raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death. Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care." -Francis Young, DEA Administrative Law Judge​