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Oooh.. what do you know.. my favorite shot taken from the last wedding was with a 5Dc!
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I love the dynamic range you were able to capture in the font. It so clearly reads "Content Protected by Owner".

LOLOLOL! I thought it was just me... I was about to become a supporting member in hopes that I could see the image, haha.
 
Oooh.. what do you know.. my favorite shot taken from the last wedding was with a 5Dc!
p1039216218-5.jpg

I love the dynamic range you were able to capture in the font. It so clearly reads "Content Protected by Owner".

LOLOLOL! I thought it was just me... I was about to become a supporting member in hopes that I could see the image, haha.

Hopefully he'll correct the image later. I've let him know about it through various social media. Schwetty's a talented fellow, and does great work with the 5DC and the 5D2.
 
The 17-40 f/4L is another option!
SORRY! Don't hit me! LOL!

GAH!!! Why must you all do this to me?
That's certainly another option. It would give you a normal/wide lens on a Rebel or 7D, and then if you go full frame, it will be an awesome wide angle.

When I shot with only 20D bodies, I had the Tamron 17-50, the Canon 10-22mm and the 70-200mm F2.8 L IS (my main 3 lenses anyway).
For my new 5DII, I sold the 10-22mm and got the 17-40mm as a wide angle. I sold the 17-50mm and got a Tamron 28-75mm F2.8. I also had a Sigma 30mm F1.4 (for crop only, like EF-S). I sold that and got the Canon 50mm F1.4.

It's a tough choice you have. I think someone suggested just keeping your Rebel for now, and getting some good lenses....then you can upgrade to the 5DIII next year (or maybe a different model). As mentioned, if you're shooting portraits, you might be better off with a simple camera/lens and proper lighting & modifiers.
 
You guys would probably want to murder me if you found out I sold my 16-35 2.8L a little over a month ago to buy studio lighting :-P
 
You guys would probably want to murder me if you found out I sold my 16-35 2.8L a little over a month ago to buy studio lighting :-P
Why? More than just to get studio lighting... Did you not use it? Not like it? There was a reason you chose to sell that one in particular what was it?

You have to decide what YOU need. We can tell you our experience and what we like. But... that really doesn't matter to YOU. Your style of shooting is probably vastly different than mine is. KWIM? If you were to go on a portrait session that is a newborn and a whole family of say 5 what would you want in your lenses? What do you feel YOU need with the camera you have right now in lenses?
 
I love the dynamic range you were able to capture in the font. It so clearly reads "Content Protected by Owner".

LOLOLOL! I thought it was just me... I was about to become a supporting member in hopes that I could see the image, haha.

Hopefully he'll correct the image later. I've let him know about it through various social media. Schwetty's a talented fellow, and does great work with the 5DC and the 5D2.

Either he fixed it or I couldn't view it on my laptop (I'm on my desktop now and I can see the image..) Beautiful image, Schwetty! I love it!
 
I have not read all of the responses above. It sounds like you want to move into maternity and newborn photography, and possibly other people/portrait photography. For that, the advantages of a full-frame camera are several. I prefer FF over APS-C because of the way lenses function on FF. A 50 is a 50; an 85 is an 85; a 135 is a 135--at traditional distances, and in real-world locations. With an APS-C body, the 85mm prime is basically USELESS indoors in normal homes and smaller studios, except for TIGHT head and shoulder shots. So, seriously, forget the crop-bodies. And forget the 7D; its sensor performance is just average now, and its biggest issue is its weak color saturation and poor dynamic range. Ask a dual owner, like Buckster, how the 7D stacks up against the 5D-II. I know, I know, I know...7D owners like their 7D's but the fact is, the sensor is now old, and is well,well behind the times. THE BODY and its sub-systems are good, but the image quality, especially at higher ISO's, is sub-par by FF standards, and by the standards of the newer Nikon and Pentax crop-body cameras.

Prime lenses...okay...the 35/1.4-L...nice lens, but you pay a lot to get not much. Why not just the 35/2? And, if you have a FF body, you will need an 85mm/1.8. As far as affordable FF bodies, the 5D Classic performs quite well, still. Why? LARGE, high-quality pixels make it perform well at higher ISO levels (Better than the 7D by a significant margin), and it has excellent color quality and color depth. For a person who wants to do mostly portraiture, the color depth the 5D offers is an important advantage, and the 5D Mark II really is not much of an advantage, and is basically the same camera, with a few extra "invisible" AF-assist points thrown in, but otherwise the same camera as the older 5D Classic.

I would spend less on cameras and lenses, and more on lighting gear. Hence the idea of the 5D Classic over the 5D-II if you're just getting started. Portraiture is more about lighting and light control than about fancy cameras and lenses. High-speed lenses like 35/1.4 and 85/1.2 bring almost zero to the table when you're shooting with flash at f/8. I honestly would ADD THREE, or FOUR flash heads, and honeycomb grids, barn doors, and diffusers for at least two flash heads reflector sets (ie, two matching grid-barndoor-diffuser sets for two lights), a strip box, a boom stand, a portable backdrop stands-and-crossbar set, and two Lastolite Umbrella box umbrella boxes.

Right now, I do not see the 5D-II as a good investment; it is due for a refresh, and when that happens, perhaps Canon will finally make a camera that can compete with the Nikon D700 in terms of features and focusing and rapid handling; the 5D series has only middling to low-rent autofocus; I expect a 5D-III might actually not happen, but a NEW, finally-competitive body will take its place to compete with Nikon (and Sony! Happy guys??) head-on.
 
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MLeek - I sold it because I never used it. I had my 50mm on my lens 99.9999% of the time, so I thought my money would be better spent on lighting since I wanted to learn about lighting a subject indoors. However, I do need something wider than a 50mm on a crop body because my home studio is only 20x20 and it's a PITA.
 
Do you have the kit lens? 18-55?
 
^^ what derrel said.

But to be fair 35L is one stop faster than the cheaper 35 f/2. One stop is huge though on wedding photography. If you shoot 35 f/2 closed down to f/8 like derrel said, you probably cant tell the difference even on the edges.
 
^^ what derrel said.

But to be fair 35L is one stop faster than the cheaper 35 f/2. One stop is huge though on wedding photography. If you shoot 35 f/2 closed down to f/8 like derrel said, you probably cant tell the difference even on the edges.

I can attest that the 35 f/2 does fairly well on a crop frame camera in a studio setting. Stopped down, it is an extremely sharp lens.
 
I'm just going to put it out there that I hate all of you. :lmao: I thought I had a hard time deciding before coming in here, lol! Ahhh!!!

Okay, now that I've taken a sedative... if my plan was to do indoor portraiture about 75% of the time and outdoor on location portraiture for the other 25% and never ever do a wedding. (I second shot for a friend... never again. Weddings just aren't my thing.) What would you recommend now?
 
I typically shoot at f/8 unless I'm outdoors, by the way.
 
You guys would probably want to murder me if you found out I sold my 16-35 2.8L a little over a month ago to buy studio lighting :-P
Why? More than just to get studio lighting... Did you not use it? Not like it? There was a reason you chose to sell that one in particular what was it?

You have to decide what YOU need. We can tell you our experience and what we like. But... that really doesn't matter to YOU. Your style of shooting is probably vastly different than mine is. KWIM? If you were to go on a portrait session that is a newborn and a whole family of say 5 what would you want in your lenses? What do you feel YOU need with the camera you have right now in lenses?

So... do you have the kit lens? Shoot with it for a day even if it's just portraits of your kitchen chair. Decide if YOU need that wide. I can tell you what I would choose based on your info, but like I said up there... our style of shooting may be EXTREMELY different.

If I had to choose I'd go with:
The 7D and the 24-70 OR the Tamron 28-75 OR the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 OS (they will tx to a full frame later) depending on how I feel about my budget.
I do not like to be that wide even on a crop sensor because I screw up. Personally, me... I do the screwing up. Not the lens or anything else. It's my lack of paying close attention to bending lines and big noses or giant heads, hips, boobs...
I like having my zooms as well as primes and although I LOVE my primes for the amazing quality I often default to my zooms for sheer laziness and ease of use. MANY MANY portrait photographers shoot all prime and honestly, it's the way to go. I can't shoot a wedding with all primes, I can't shoot sports and events with all primes so that feeds my laziness in portraiture.
Probably if I were going to go all prime I'd go for the either the 24mm or 28mm (I love that lens) and 35mm, 50mm and 85.

And of course the 70-200 and 580EX II.
I will add (DUCKING!!!) that I have the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 OS and I actually liked it better than the Canon 1 version.
 

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