VERY DISCOURAGING

[AMOMENT]

AMEN. You are not alone. I became very discouraged as well until I started studying with successful photographers in my area who were much moer humble about their knowledge and less arrogant. I feel like if "you" are lurking in the beginners forum than you should have a LARGE amount of patience. If you are going to become frustrated by repetitive questions or questions that seem obvious, than stick to the forums that this is less likely to happen in.

Also, try not to be discouraged. One thing I have learned is that if you do make a career of this or even on an advanced hobby your biggest critic will be other photographers. Keep that passion going because there is no HARM in being wrong in photography. Maybe you take an off' photo but no one get hurt If you are getting paid, than you do have more resposnibility to capture the moment for your clients. Believe me I know how you feel. It's sometimes hard to get decency. It's funny because so many of the experts on here claim that you become offended when you get bad reviews or cc but they fail to see this has nothing to do with it. It's the lack of respect and or the sarcasm that can be offensive. Hang in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Alex_B]

All i gotta say is i could get a thread started..Did i break the record ...it's all good... i haven't taken any of this personal.

You broke no record today ... As this is the internet, the thread could have become much worse. This is all rather straight-forward and direct, but still mostly very civilised.



And in a sense entertaining

 

[dphotography]

Target has been placed......me thinks....lol

and i ain't running.....

 

[rexbobcat]

AMEN. You are not alone. I became very discouraged as well until I started studying with successful photographers in my area who were much moer humble about their knowledge and less arrogant.

That's because they probably don't see you as a threat. Just wait until you announce that you're going into business and see how humble they are.

 

[dphotography]

All i gotta say is i could get a thread started..Did i break the record ...it's all good... i haven't taken any of this personal.

You broke no record today ... As this is the internet, the thread could have become much worse. This is all rather straight-forward and direct, but still mostly very civilised.


And in a sense entertaining

very entertaining ,

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

AMEN. You are not alone. I became very discouraged as well until I started studying with successful photographers in my area who were much moer humble about their knowledge and less arrogant.

That's because they probably don't see you as a threat. Just wait until you announce that you're going into business and see how humble they are.

She already has.

 

[cgipson1]

AMEN. You are not alone. I became very discouraged as well until I started studying with successful photographers in my area who were much moer humble about their knowledge and less arrogant.

That's because they probably don't see you as a threat. Just wait until you announce that you're going into business and see how humble they are.

She already has.

YES.. she has!

 

[cgipson1]

Theirs allot of beginners on here that ask questions or need some c&c from a supposed pro and all they get is sarcastic idiotic comments. We are asking for the constructive criticism . So please be more compassionate and help if you can or just keep your sarcastic unnecessary comments to your self. let me make sure i clarify I am ok with negative comments ,cause obviously if the pic is not great or good i want to know so i could fix it and learn from it . Thanks for your time

The only ones I am intentionally rude to.. or ignore, are the ones that advertise they are "Professionals" on their websites.. and then come here and ask the simplest of beginner questions! Or those that do "PAID" shoots.. and their work is total overexposed, underexposed, harshly lit, out of focus, bad white balanced, discolored, overly processed CRAP!

I am not obligated to help anyone.. I do this for free! But I do not have to gracefully put up with those that make the word "photographer" a JOKE, either!

 

[Mach0]

It's better to get "sarcastic" advice on this forum then to get no advice at all. I post photos on here routinely and never get comments. That's much more frustrating. Trust me.

Couldn't agree more lol

 

[cgipson1]

AMEN. You are not alone. I became very discouraged as well until I started studying with successful photographers in my area who were much moer humble about their knowledge and less arrogant. I feel like if "you" are lurking in the beginners forum than you should have a LARGE amount of patience. If you are going to become frustrated by repetitive questions or questions that seem obvious, than stick to the forums that this is less likely to happen in.

Also, try not to be discouraged. One thing I have learned is that if you do make a career of this or even on an advanced hobby your biggest critic will be other photographers. Keep that passion going because there is no HARM in being wrong in photography. Maybe you take an off' photo but no one get hurt If you are getting paid, than you do have more resposnibility to capture the moment for your clients. Believe me I know how you feel. It's sometimes hard to get decency. It's funny because so many of the experts on here claim that you become offended when you get bad reviews or cc but they fail to see this has nothing to do with it. It's the lack of respect and or the sarcasm that can be offensive. Hang in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder what you consider successful? $50 a portrait session with 100 bad photos on a CD? Or those the charge $200 for a wedding.. and give 1000 bad photos on a cd? What do you define as successful?

 

[IByte]

I wonder what you consider successful? $50 a portrait session with 100 bad photos on a CD? Or those the charge $200 for a wedding.. and give 1000 bad photos on a cd? What do you define as successful?

When you don't end up on "You Are Not a Photographer's" website.

 

[Austin Greene]

All i gotta say is i could get a thread started..Did i break the record ...it's all good... i haven't taken any of this personal.

And so it was that grammar once again lost the battle against laziness.

 

[Austin Greene]

I do this for free! But I do not have to gracefully put up with those that make the word "photographer" a JOKE, either!

Almost as good as Velveeta, only in text form. I believe the same slogan still applies...

LIQUID GOLD

 

[manaheim]

And i get what your saying ,but in shape or form i have said i was a pro , and yes there are allot of nice people that have said in a nice critical way that my pics are bad and i don't have a problem with that ,that motivates me more and pushes me more ,i am talking about the unnecessary things that don't need to be said cause they have nothing to do with the pic .

Guys, the OP is not referring to harsh criticism. She's clear when she mentions "sarcastic" and "idiotic" comments which are no longer constructive. I have seen quite a few of the OP's posts and I have seen her respond well to harsh criticism. She's taken her strong medicine gracefully and keeps coming back. That said, I have seen plenty of snide, nonsense responses aimed at her and plenty of others on this forum which are just counterproductive. These types of responses are often cut-and-run, and offer no solution. It's sophomoric. This behavior will always be rationalized and justified and there's no sense of arguing with it. It's not just this forum, it's all forums. It doesn't matter if it's photography, motorcycles, politics, software development, whatever), people who feel they are elite will behave a certain way. Those who want to be part of the elite will turn a blind eye, mimic, and sell out their own identity, to be part of the majority. It will always be this way. My fair response to the OP is simply this: some people are just jerks, some don't know how to handle or respond to being placed on a pedestal, and some otherwise good people, may condone and follow suite for all sorts of reasons. An internet forum will behave with group mentality, and in most cases this behavior is completely different than if it were not a group. It's human nature, so try and ignore it this angry and irrational part of human nature, just as I will ignore the harsh responses to my post here.

Thank YOU ...FINALLY SOME ONE GETS IT...

This is all well and good, but maybe you should ask yourself why you are a target for this? Maybe it's the rushed typing? Your posts in this thread are, frankly, a mess. That's kind of like waving a red flag in front of a pull on the internet.

 

[mjhoward]

Guys, the OP is not referring to harsh criticism. She's clear when she mentions "sarcastic" and "idiotic" comments which are no longer constructive. I have seen quite a few of the OP's posts and I have seen her respond well to harsh criticism. She's taken her strong medicine gracefully and keeps coming back. That said, I have seen plenty of snide, nonsense responses aimed at her and plenty of others on this forum which are just counterproductive. These types of responses are often cut-and-run, and offer no solution. It's sophomoric. This behavior will always be rationalized and justified and there's no sense of arguing with it. It's not just this forum, it's all forums. It doesn't matter if it's photography, motorcycles, politics, software development, whatever), people who feel they are elite will behave a certain way. Those who want to be part of the elite will turn a blind eye, mimic, and sell out their own identity, to be part of the majority. It will always be this way. My fair response to the OP is simply this: some people are just jerks, some don't know how to handle or respond to being placed on a pedestal, and some otherwise good people, may condone and follow suite for all sorts of reasons. An internet forum will behave with group mentality, and in most cases this behavior is completely different than if it were not a group. It's human nature, so try and ignore it this angry and irrational part of human nature, just as I will ignore the harsh responses to my post here.

Thank YOU ...FINALLY SOME ONE GETS IT...

This is all well and good, but maybe you should ask yourself why you are a target for this? Maybe it's the rushed typing? Your posts in this thread are, frankly, a mess. That's kind of like waving a red flag in front of a pull on the internet.

What an unfortunate time to misspell BULL.