VERY DISCOURAGING

[ewick]

i don't need any cuddle , I'am ok with the truth on how my pictures look,thats why i'am here to understand more what i'am doing is right or wrong.i'am also starting school ,reading books ,trying to learn as much as i can . Theres allot of post on here and i read allot of them . I might ask the same question someone asked before but that's not my fault .Why should i get a smart remark because they are tired of answering the same question. Thats not fare either. I didn't mean to offend anyone but its how i feel and my opinion

If you didn't bother taking a minute or two to use the search feature then yes, yes it is your fault. if you searched and couldn't find the answer then you could put that in your post and people will generally be more helpful. I have seen people make a post and two posts down is the very same question that was answered.

Exactly! The search feature! Google is good too. Even if you google "Beginner guide to DSLR photography" or whatever

Go learn what you can on your own, come back here with what you've learned and ask about it.

By no means do I say this to offend, OP, but I'm SO tired of teaching others how to teach themselves.

I see both sides of the coin... however, you do realize you are NOT obligated to teach anybody anything right? just saying.

 

[Austin Greene]

Theirs allot of beginners on here that ask questions or need some c&c from a supposed pro and all they get is sarcastic idiotic comments. We are asking for the constructive criticism . So please be more compassionate and help if you can or just keep your sarcastic unnecessary comments to your self. let me make sure i clarify I am ok with negative comments ,cause obviously if the pic is not great or good i want to know so i could fix it and learn from it . Thanks for your time

Sorry, let me turn up my coddling meter a couple notches.

Oh wait...

It broke.




Don't take this the wrong way, but as others have said, its a bit of a hazing ritual we all go through. Do we want fauxtographers bleeding the forums dry with constant troll posts featuring titles like "I git mai D3100, how i make D monayz?" by coddling them and applauding poor technical ability? Hell no.

Instead, we try our best to weed out all those who aren't truly passionate, and so far I'd say its been quite successful. If your really wanting to become a decent photographer, as your mentioned interest in learning would indicate, then you of all people should appreciate the efforts of these forums members. If we welcomed every person who just picked up a DSLR and thinks that "P" on the mode dial is for "Professional-turn to make money" then all of your posts asking for genuine help would quickly be suffocated and never see the light of day.

Sit through it, take the asinine remarks with a grain of salt, and learn to handle proper critique. At least, thats what you should do if you truly want to learn and improve your shots. If you think we're rough, you should check out what the professionals in the real photography industry are like. Nat Geo photographers get their ass handed to them, if not fired, for the tiniest faults that even the most seasoned professionals here would have a hard time catching.


P.S: First thing I would do is change it so your photos can be edited. Its not like your trying to sell your photos, and I can tell you from personal experience that the CC you receive is much better when people can manipulate your shots themselves to demonstrate their thought process.

 

[mishele]

 

[12sndsgood]

I learned a long time ago the Internet is filled with great info and it's also filled with crap. Whining about the crap that is posted generally has the effect of pulling the people who spew crap out of the woodwork. So I learned to just read the important stuff and ignore the crap. Nothing you do or say is going to change those that spew crap so focus on the important stuff or your going to have a miserable time.

 

[KmH]

I think if you take the time to correctly structure your posts you may get responses that are more thought out and genuine. For example, when someone posts a new thread totally ridden with spelling and grammar errors people may not take them as 'serious'.

Yep. If a member won't bother to make appropriate capital letters, paragraphs, or puts .... all through their posts, why should anyone else bother to even look at their photos, let alone C&C them, since the same lame attitude was likely used with their camera.

Most neophytes would be way ahead in the game if they made the effort to learn the artistic and technical fundamentals of photography, and learned how to use the camera/lens/light before they start posting for C&C.

 

[KmH]

I have decided my comment was out of line.

 

[DiskoJoe]

"En la boca cerrada no entran moscas." (Into a closed mouth, flies do not enter.)

One of the most famous idiomatic expressions in the Spanish language...and seemingly appropriate in this instance, methinks.

What did I tell you. Listen to the man.

 

[Alex_B]

If some of you put half as much effort into your photography as you have into this thread, we wouldn't be having this conversation.


:hug::

ugly weather outside, no studio booked, not in the mood for abstract indoor macro ... meh ... so I prefer to entertain myself in this thread today

 

[Alex_B]

I think if you take the time to correctly structure your posts you may get responses that are more thought out and genuine. For example, when someone posts a new thread totally ridden with spelling and grammar errors people may not take them as 'serious'.

Ever consider that this forum is on the World Wide Web and english isn't everyone's native language?

Thank you! It isn't mine either!

 

[jake337]

Lame....

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

I think if you take the time to correctly structure your posts you may get responses that are more thought out and genuine. For example, when someone posts a new thread totally ridden with spelling and grammar errors people may not take them as 'serious'.

Ever consider that this forum is on the World Wide Web and english isn't everyone's native language?

Thank you! It isn't mine either!

Yeah, and what's funny is how many people with English as a second language are able to write better than many with English as their only language.





Too busy to communicate effectively? Well, you're probably too busy to learn effectively. You're also probably too busy to read books and practice in an effective manner.

 

[12sndsgood]

I think if you take the time to correctly structure your posts you may get responses that are more thought out and genuine. For example, when someone posts a new thread totally ridden with spelling and grammar errors people may not take them as 'serious'.

Yep. If a member won't bother to make appropriate capital letters, paragraphs, or puts .... all through their posts, why should anyone else bother to even look at their photos, let alone C&C them, since the same lame attitude was likely used with their camera.

Most neophytes would be way ahead in the game if they made the effort to learn the artistic and technical fundamentals of photography, and learned how to use the camera/lens/light before they start posting for C&C.

I will disagree with this. Saying because someone doesnt have proper punctuation in no way has any bearing on how well they know there camera or how serious they are about there photography skills. That is just totally reaching. If you want to be snobby and not help someone because they mis-used the word allot or a lot fine, but saying they don't know there camera because of it is just utter nonsence. Thats like saying. well you have been in a car wreck so you must not care about your photography because someone serious about photography would take more care in driving to a photography event.

 

[Alex_B]

OK, let us not make this a language related thread.

I suggest the OP posts some more images and asks for advice, or just for comments or whatever she is after.

And then we will see how all this develops if everyone gives everyone else a second chance

(Oops, I just realised I put someone on my ignore list in the course of this thread though. Let us call it collateral damage )

 

[imagemaker46]

Just visit the Op's flickr website with her photos. Found in her profile.

 

[dphotography]

All i gotta say is i could get a thread started..Did i break the record ...it's all good... i haven't taken any of this personal.